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Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:48 am to
Posted by Daowna
Member since Dec 2010
1042 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:48 am to
This question has been asked here a few times before.

Short version:

Short-Term-> Staying in Big 12 to run the table and get into the NCG would have been awesome.

Long-Term-> Opening 10-2 and beating the #1 team who may go on to win it all AND win the Heisman (maybe he doesn't get it playing in the 'weak defense' Big 12) is very much worth the short term loss to staying in Big 12.

We're going to be able to build more off this season than most realize I think. Sleeping giants and what not.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55169 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:48 am to
Honest answer: heck no, losing in the sec would have been better than winning in the big bevo.

Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:50 am to
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:51 am to
frick that. The big 12 is on burnt-orange life support. Good riddance to that joke of a conference built around 1 team. We permanently put them in their place with this move.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:54 am to
No
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:55 am to
quote:

do y'all wish A&M would have stayed in the Big 12 one more year


Absolutely not.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5863 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:56 am to
quote:




Just Perfect...
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 11:58 am
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Nope we won the war being in the SEC and doing better the expected and projected we can now out recruit Texas and make them even more nonrelevant than they already are imo that's better than anything we would have gained by staying


This is really all you need to know about Aggies. Sticking it to Texas is greater than winning a national championship. We Texas fans have know this for a 100 years. Its an ingrained belief system. Say hello to 1939, 1919, 1917, 1898, 1877, 1862, 1755, ............ They're on the wall so it must have happened, but damn it was a long time ago.
Posted by townestoldme2
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2012
499 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:57 am to
Big12 is not a conference. Everyone who had options to leave...left.
Posted by Shiner Bock Aggie
1985
Member since Aug 2008
517 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:57 am to
Fu{k off and die
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5863 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:59 am to
I am surprised y'all haven't tried to join the SEC. It seems your fans love posting on our boards...
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 12:00 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

Nope we won the war being in the SEC and doing better the expected and projected we can now out recruit Texas and make them even more nonrelevant than they already are imo that's better than anything we would have gained by staying




This is really all you need to know about Aggies. Sticking it to Texas is greater than winning a national championship. We Texas fans have know this for a 100 years. Its an ingrained belief system. Say hello to 1939, 1919, 1917, 1898, 1877, 1862, 1755, ............ They're on the wall so it must have happened, but damn it was a long time ago.


So, wanting to make our primary in-state rival irrelevant on the recruiting stage is something we should be ashamed of?

Good grief you're ignorant.
Posted by redleg82
Virginia
Member since Jan 2012
218 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:02 pm to
Win, lose or draw A&M could not tolerate the Big 12 environment any longer. That league is nothing but a life support system for Texas. Even though OU spanks that Texas a$$ year in and out I still feel sorry them.

I think the polls are recognizing that its not a good league.
Posted by redleg82
Virginia
Member since Jan 2012
218 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:02 pm to
Win, lose or draw A&M could not tolerate the Big 12 environment any longer. That league is nothing but a life support system for Texas. Even though OU spanks that Texas a$$ year in and out I still feel sorry them.

I think the polls are recognizing that its not a good league.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
144923 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:05 pm to
why do people keep saying this? we have a bad secondary that would get torn apart in the big 12. at least one or 2 teams would get us. wed have the same record that we do now
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79732 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Big12fan


There's no such thing as a "Big 12 fan".

When was the last time that you hoped that any Big 12 team not named Texas or Oklahoma won a key game/bowl game out of conference...other than to hope that an SEC team lost?

I'm sure you have a fathead of Kim Mulkey, Bill Self, or Bill Snyder on your wall, right?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61015 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

So, wanting to make our primary in-state rival irrelevant on the recruiting stage is something we should be ashamed of?

Good grief you're ignorant



11 straight 10+ win seasons, 2005 MNC, 2009 MNCG appearance, been top 10 in recruiting for 5+ years, still recruit there despite the poor conference/seasonal record. A&M needs more than 1 season to actually overtake texas, and those seasons would probably have to include some sort of trophy of significance (conference or MNC) to really make a difference. I think you are jumping the gun for 1 single 10 win season as if thats some automatic ticket to all this future success. You forget, plenty of teams have won 10+ games in recent years expecting more success only to find themselves falling short in the next season.

A&M has excitement and positivity in its' fanbase right now, they are geared for all this success IF the trend continues, but its not as easy as you Aggie fans make it out to be with only won season of success.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5863 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:11 pm to
Have you watched the Big 12 this year? It's a disaster. The Big 12 has zero defense and Manziel's stats would be even more incredible than they are now.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

This is really all you need to know about Aggies. Sticking it to Texas is greater than winning a national championship.


Well, fricking longhorn, not according to THIS:

quote:

all I can say is that if what one source told me this morning was true, there's some serious disagreement on how Texas should move forward.

Here are a few things shared today:


What's lighting a fire right now has more to do with Aggy than it does with OU. There's always been a sort of tolerance with Mack and OU as it relates to former players and donors. Some may disagree with that but that has been the case since Texas was on that 5 game losing streak. Nobody liked being second to OU but they could point to how well Texas did against the rest of the league and especially A&M. To some degree the A&M game really kept the heat off Mack because Texas we so dominant in that series under Mack. The irony here is that Mack can't hold that game up anymore since Texas no longer plays them. But their success this year has really lit a fire for some at Texas.


"The thing that's being thrown around right now is how Texas compares to where Texas A&M was this time last year. Sherman had a losing record in conference play in four years, The Aggy BOR acted primarily because a few former players
and boosters demanded action and went against some of the big name donors. Aggy was financially strapped and had to pay Sherm a significant buyout but they wanted to change the culture at texas a&m bad enough to make it happen. They were desperate for a change and knew they couldn't afford to start SEC play with the same program they had in the big 12. They changed their culture with one hire. It was a huge gamble but it paid off and they are relevant nationally again for the first time in a long time. If you look at the last 3 years, Mack is really struggling in conference games. In fact, he's on a stretch in conference play not seen around here in a long, long time. people around the state have eyes and when Texas is struggling and the ags are getting all the pub people start to get a little nervous because Texas has been operating without pretty much any resistance from other teams in the state. That has not only changed but it's changed so much that you can argue that the two programs has switched places from there they were just 3 years ago in terms of relevance in the state. Not saying I agree with that but many feel that way. Could a very vocal group challenge the decision of Powers and Dodds the way the group of people at A&M did? I don't know. I still think Mack comes back next year but ending the year with 3 straight losses would be a tough sell for this group."


One guy told me this morning that Mack has all but cut off communication between himself and people not directly involved in the day to day operations at Texas.


"i've never seen him like this. The access that so many people had to him is all but gone and I think it's starting to backfire a little to be honest. Some people just aren't sure what's going on with him and the team because he's pulled back so much. Guys that were in his corner no matter what have started to question what it is he's trying to do not just with the program but with his attitude change. Some blame it on the LHN but I think all of it has taken it's toll on him. Everything seems laborious for him. "



I should have another update tonight or tomorrow.


Apparently, sticking it to "AGGY" is all the fricking longhorns care about. Dumb frick.
Posted by jdaute2
lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2012
1746 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

sounds like a whiny asshurt LSU fan.


Sure as hell does. This thread had nothing to do with LSU and whoever that is made it about them anyway. I'm a tiger fan through and through but damn, some of these ppl need to give it a rest.
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