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Seriously, what is the problem with our defense?
Posted on 10/20/12 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 10/20/12 at 10:47 pm
We have given up huge yardage to some really crappy teams this season including probably worst team in the SEC, Kentucky who got 206 yards rushing tonight. Are our linemen and LB's just not very good? I mean how many times did their Freshman QB and RB run right up the middle for 5 and 6 yards a pop? I see our DL seemingly going toe to toe with their OL and the runner goes flashing by for good yardage. Are our LB's just incapable of filling the gaps in Grantham's 3-4 defense? We have had bad defense for so long it just makes me want to give up on this team. What the hell is the problem?
This post was edited on 10/20/12 at 10:54 pm
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Posted on 10/20/12 at 10:50 pm to davesdawgs
Booboo is a lost cause but I thought the defense would be much better.. I truly give up. There is something in the water in Athens which makes dumb coaches dumber.
Posted on 10/20/12 at 10:50 pm to davesdawgs
They don't get off blocks and they overpursue.
The secondary and pass rush isn't any good, either. If UK had either of their injured QBs playing, they probably would have won.
The secondary and pass rush isn't any good, either. If UK had either of their injured QBs playing, they probably would have won.
Posted on 10/20/12 at 11:07 pm to dawgdayafternoon
Zero pass rush and the ends are a joke. Washingtom sucks....fricking period. Anyone that think otherwise is a fricking idiot. A guy that big that cant get pressure on a qb...giveme a fricking break. And Robinson is a fricking joke too.
Posted on 10/20/12 at 11:22 pm to strontiamdog
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Zero pass rush and the ends are a joke. Washingtom sucks....fricking period. Anyone that think otherwise is a fricking idiot. A guy that big that cant get pressure on a qb...giveme a fricking break. And Robinson is a fricking joke too.
So basically our DE's are big but not athletic enough to beat their blocks and our ILB's suck? Hopefully some of these younger guys will develop but right now we appear to have one of the worst rushing defenses I have seen so far this season.
This post was edited on 10/20/12 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 10/20/12 at 11:25 pm to davesdawgs
We are worse against the run than we were two years ago in our first year in the 3-4 scheme.
I just don't know how that's possible with all of the experience we have.
I just don't know how that's possible with all of the experience we have.
Posted on 10/20/12 at 11:29 pm to dawgdayafternoon
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I just don't know how that's possible with all of the experience we have.
Experience is only a positive thing if you are learning useful stuff and practicing good technique. If you're getting crap, experience is not your friend.
Posted on 10/20/12 at 11:31 pm to dawgdayafternoon
It's a lack of coaching, period. you think ala defense would be out of position like we were tonight> Give me a fricking break. Ga looked pathetic against a bottom tier rush attack. We will get arse raped next sat count on it
Posted on 10/20/12 at 11:33 pm to FaCubeItches
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Experience is only a positive thing if you are learning useful stuff and practicing good technique. If you're getting crap, experience is not your friend.
Translation: our coaching sucks. It does make me wonder if Grantham understands the nuances of college offenses and if he has a good defensive coaching staff under him. Our guys just don't seem to be playing as a defensive unit. They occasionally make a good play in the opposing backfield but all too often they're giving up 4 and 5 yards a pop right up the middle.
This post was edited on 10/20/12 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 10/20/12 at 11:35 pm to davesdawgs
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Seriously, what is the problem with our defense?
Here's a thought... does Grantham realize there could be a person with binoculars and headset on the OTHER SIDE of the towel relaying signals to the booth?
Posted on 10/20/12 at 11:40 pm to Chris_topher
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Seriously, what is the problem with our defense?
Here's a thought... does Grantham realize there could be a person with binoculars and headset on the OTHER SIDE of the towel relaying signals to the booth?
I don't know but that pic speaks volumes. I think it's pretty obvious that Grantham is still learning how to be a DC so it's basically another case of a coordinator getting OJT at UGA. I mean when in the hell are we going to hire someone who already knows what they are doing?
Posted on 10/21/12 at 6:26 am to davesdawgs
The same thing was happening last year, just not as frequently. I said CTG was in the same boat as Richt and BoBo. Everyone thought I was nuts. CTG was right about one thing "I don't care how many yards they get as long as they don't score". Forgot about the not scoring part I guess.
This post was edited on 10/21/12 at 6:27 am
Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:08 am to davesdawgs
Like I said in my pre-season prediction, the defensive lineman are a bunch of out of shape fat slobs.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:28 am to davesdawgs
ok..again...
interior linemen are supposed to maintain positions in the middle occupying OLs and stopping the run as it comes to them..our stupid tackles were shooting gaps last night and were literally rode out of the play.
OLBs are supposed to maintain outside contain and for the first time last night they did that. Jenkins replaced Jones and did his job.
Ogletree is the only legit LB we have that can play sideline to sideline and north to south. Jones could but he's injured.
secondary is placed on an island in this defense and anything could happen there.
problem clearly goes to the fact that the down linemen are doing the wrong things gapwise combined with the fact they can't maintain the LOS by themselves.
interior linemen are supposed to maintain positions in the middle occupying OLs and stopping the run as it comes to them..our stupid tackles were shooting gaps last night and were literally rode out of the play.
OLBs are supposed to maintain outside contain and for the first time last night they did that. Jenkins replaced Jones and did his job.
Ogletree is the only legit LB we have that can play sideline to sideline and north to south. Jones could but he's injured.
secondary is placed on an island in this defense and anything could happen there.
problem clearly goes to the fact that the down linemen are doing the wrong things gapwise combined with the fact they can't maintain the LOS by themselves.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 10:30 am to Leghumper
And all of the down linemen are suppose to be drafted. Hell some have said 10 players from this D will be drafted.
Could it be poor coaching?
Could it be poor coaching?
This post was edited on 10/21/12 at 10:31 am
Posted on 10/21/12 at 10:55 am to Buddy2012
coaching partly, S&C is a real important part, but stupidity and laziness on the players part has to be also acknowledged...
as far as coaching goes, I think Grantham sucks at gameday coaching.He looks like a dumbass over there giving what looks like the same 3-4 signals while the team is looking at him saying "WTF" and the opposing offense is already up to the LOS. The coaches have never adjusted to the fact that opposing teams run a quicksnap offense on them and they are never ready. Looks like a system that the players have to "plug into" and not a system that uses the available talent's strong points.
as far as the players go..looks to be the same old story of underacheiving at UGA and going on to become studs in the NFL...recruiting has to be addressed with this aspect in mind..
ps..if I was the DC and the offenses did that quicksnap shite, I would order the charges to jump offsides and waylay that QB. Then of course look around "confused" mumbling about the snap count.
as far as coaching goes, I think Grantham sucks at gameday coaching.He looks like a dumbass over there giving what looks like the same 3-4 signals while the team is looking at him saying "WTF" and the opposing offense is already up to the LOS. The coaches have never adjusted to the fact that opposing teams run a quicksnap offense on them and they are never ready. Looks like a system that the players have to "plug into" and not a system that uses the available talent's strong points.
as far as the players go..looks to be the same old story of underacheiving at UGA and going on to become studs in the NFL...recruiting has to be addressed with this aspect in mind..
ps..if I was the DC and the offenses did that quicksnap shite, I would order the charges to jump offsides and waylay that QB. Then of course look around "confused" mumbling about the snap count.
This post was edited on 10/21/12 at 11:46 am
Posted on 10/21/12 at 10:57 am to Buddy2012
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And all of the down linemen are suppose to be drafted. Hell some have said 10 players from this D will be drafted.
Could it be poor coaching?
No doubt coaching is a factor. If the draft status of this bunch is that good then I can only conclude that it's based on potential in the NFL with someone else whipping them into shape. As it stands now they simply aren't athletic enough and playing together as a unit.
One thing I have noticed is Chavis calls his defensive alignments from the booth where no doubt he has a better overview of what the offense is doing. I guess he has a younger guy on the field relaying his alignments. Grantham might be able to do this in 5 years but for now it's obvious he is still learning and our guys aren't being taught proper techniques and/or they are overrated and simply aren't as talented as their evaluations have led us to believe. Regardless, something is missing.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 12:28 pm to davesdawgs
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I don't know but that pic speaks volumes. I think it's pretty obvious that Grantham is still learning how to be a DC so it's basically another case of a coordinator getting OJT at UGA. I mean when in the hell are we going to hire someone who already knows what they are doing?
Holy shite. Wut?
Posted on 10/21/12 at 12:37 pm to gatorhata9
Primarily coaching, preparation, and motivational problems. Talent not the issue on our defense. Main area where there is a talent gap and experience gap on this team is the offensive line. But otherwise, talent level should not be a problem.
On this defense, future NFL drafts include John Jenkins, Geathers, Abry Jones, probably C. Washington, Jarvis Jones, Herrera, Ogletree, Brandon Smith, Rambo, and eventually (I'm betting) Swann. This is not a defense lacking people to do the job. It's also interesting how much better they played last year...though even though last year they were 5th in the nation in total defense, they still melted down against better teams, such as LSU and Michigan State in second half.
I think this is mostly a coaching issue.
On this defense, future NFL drafts include John Jenkins, Geathers, Abry Jones, probably C. Washington, Jarvis Jones, Herrera, Ogletree, Brandon Smith, Rambo, and eventually (I'm betting) Swann. This is not a defense lacking people to do the job. It's also interesting how much better they played last year...though even though last year they were 5th in the nation in total defense, they still melted down against better teams, such as LSU and Michigan State in second half.
I think this is mostly a coaching issue.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 4:51 pm to Lucius Clay
What we have on defense is a bunch of talented individuals who are unwilling to play team defense. And Richt has obviously told Grantham to tone it down. Grantham should go ahead and leave and let Richt hire another one of his buddies who will let the players do what they want. The whole problem is the head man. Richt will be here until he is ready to go, so get use to the undisciplined bs we have been going through for a while now.
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