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re: SEC Officials: Alabama Bias?

Posted on 10/3/12 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/3/12 at 7:09 pm to


sorry, out of the loop..da frick?
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 7:09 pm to
Birmingham. Move it.
Posted by LOYALBAMA
bham
Member since Sep 2008
2566 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

Best talent in the country + best coaching staff + most discipline = fewest penalties.


Obvious answer is too obvious.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

Birmingham. Move it.


Move it where? Nevada?
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:29 pm to
It's obvious that it was gonna be a bad spot if he marked it a yard short if you watched the play.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
12916 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:46 pm to
Interesting.... What about BAMA"s ranking pre-Saban?
This post was edited on 10/3/12 at 9:47 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

What about BAMA"s ranking pre-Saban?

He listed it in the OP.
Posted by Legend13
Driving a titleist
Member since Nov 2011
4079 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 10:26 pm to
Statestreet
quote:

What about BAMA"s ranking pre-Saban?
What about Bama's BCSNC and rankings present-Saban.
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
NOLA
Member since Dec 2011
4882 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 10:49 pm to
quote:

quote:

I have no doubt that Saban and his staff teach our players how to draw penalties because it is to our advantage to do so. For example, they could teach defensive lineman a certain technique with their hands inside that is equally effective while making holding calls more evident.
this is known as verbal gymnastics
Why is that not reasonable? Basketball coaches teach players how to draw fouls. Why not football coaches especially if it gives them an advantage?
This post was edited on 10/3/12 at 10:50 pm
Posted by mactheknife
Chicago
Member since Sep 2010
368 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 2:04 am to
I've read it, and I've decided.

You should stop posting.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19255 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 9:22 am to
So, only Saban, a DB/defensive specialist, knows how to coach these great, innovative techniques that keeps his teams from holding. Guessing CLM's years as an OL & yrs of coaching OL's doesn't hold up to Saban's expertise. Every OL coach at this level knows how to coach players in regards to not holding. It just comes down to the players still being 18-21 yr old college kids & if you honestly think that it is superior coaching that overcomes this "liability", then why do NFL professionals,with NFL OL coaches, still get called for it every game? To some degree,pick your own level of team bias, it still boils down to SEC refs.
Posted by InLesWeTrust
Member since Aug 2011
509 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

mactheknife


quote:

I've read it, and I've decided.

You should stop posting.


Then you read good and other stuff good too.
Posted by InLesWeTrust
Member since Aug 2011
509 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 3:23 pm to
Since I'm bored right now...

Penalty Totals for Saban teams by year:

2011 - 49
2010 - 66
2009 - 69
2008 - 57
2007 - 59
2004 - 72
2003 - 102
2002 - 92
2001 - 77
2000 - 81
1999 - 75
1998 - 72
1997 - 62
1996 - 65
1995 - 100

Nope, nothing to see here.
Posted by hwnd
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Member since Apr 2010
8114 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

InLesWeTrust
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18275 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

Penalty Totals for Saban teams by year:

2011 - 49
2010 - 66
2009 - 69
2008 - 57
2007 - 59
2004 - 72
2003 - 102
2002 - 92
2001 - 77
2000 - 81
1999 - 75
1998 - 72
1997 - 62
1996 - 65
1995 - 100


When he got to Alabama, Coach Saban prefected the "Process".

Posted by hwnd
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Member since Apr 2010
8114 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 3:51 pm to
Apparently, the SEC officials had Alabama bias in 1996, because you notice the penalties went from 100 in '95, to 65 in '96. Also, Alabama bias was clearly shown in 2004, when LSU's penalties dropped from 102 to 72.

Yup. Alabama bias.
This post was edited on 10/4/12 at 3:52 pm
Posted by geauxturbo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
4162 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 3:52 pm to
Saban

Avg penalties per year
72.5

Avg while at LSU
84.8

Avg while at Bama
60

Something seems off here.
Posted by hwnd
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Member since Apr 2010
8114 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

Something seems off here.
Or, for the less paranoid among us, there's also the possibility that maybe Saban has grown as a coach and has disciplined his teams better.
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
10835 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

Avg while at LSU
84.8

Avg while at Bama
60

that is a big difference
Posted by hwnd
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Member since Apr 2010
8114 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 3:58 pm to
It definitely is. I think it shows that LSU's teams have more of a thug mentality and can't be disciplined. Maybe it's just the culture there or something.
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