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How do you rate a teams historic success

Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:14 pm
Posted by northalabamacracker
Glasgow
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:14 pm
National Championships? Conference titles? All time wins? Which do you think is the most important?
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:15 pm to
All time winning % against Top 30 programs.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:17 pm to
Bowl appearances
Bowl victories
SEC titles
SEC West titles
Consensus NC's
10-game winning streaks
10-win seasons

Bama wins all.
Posted by northalabamacracker
Glasgow
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Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:17 pm to
Ok, but how do you decide the top 30? National Championships, conference titles? All time wins?
Posted by RandyVandy
Member since Nov 2011
954 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:18 pm to
Well, there is historic (Chicago, Yale, Army, etc) and then there is historic (Notre Dame, Michigan, Minnesota, etc), if you know what I mean.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42548 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:19 pm to
I just rank alabama 1-25, and then the rest of us.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45126 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:19 pm to
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Championships are not the way you measure a program because they are given not earned.

This best way to measure a program is by undefeated seasons,confrence championships, 10 win seasons, major bowl appearances and wins.

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:20 pm to
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National Championships? Conference titles? All time wins?


All plus major bowls and top 10 finishes
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:20 pm to
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Ok, but how do you decide the top 30? National Championships, conference titles? All time wins?



all time wins
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:25 pm to
College Football Data Warehouse uses a formula that factors SOS, win pct, nattys, and bowl games
Posted by RandyVandy
Member since Nov 2011
954 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

all time wins


percentage or what?

Random Trivia: What school has the best all-time winning percentage in D-I FBS?
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:27 pm to
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What school has the best all-time winning percentage in D-I FBS?
Michigan or Notre Dame
This post was edited on 8/29/12 at 6:28 pm
Posted by RandyVandy
Member since Nov 2011
954 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:28 pm to
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Notre Dame


Nope. South Alabama. .8519 in 3 seasons.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45126 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:30 pm to
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Nope. South Alabama. .8519 in 3 seasons.


You should see their home record. One of the greatest college football programs of all time IMO.
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:30 pm to
National Titles, followed by conference titles, followed by all-time wins and bowl appearances and wins. You can throw 10 win seasons in the mix if you really want to be anal. Nothing else really matters.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51802 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 7:04 pm to
I say all-time wins. MNCs can be too easily manipulated. But if you haven't been relevant in 80 years, you get pulled...ie Yale, Harvard, etc.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11305 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 7:18 pm to
Bowl appearances used to mean something...
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 7:23 pm to
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10-win seasons; Consensus NC's


No. Figured Bama fan would just go to numbers and claimed titles.

All-time record depends upon who you played...National Championships are awarded...depends the era, the competition, integration...and your record against the elite.


Elite 8 (No particlular order)
USC, Notre Dame, Michigan, Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Ohio State.

Last 50 Years (1962-2011) # of games against the elite.

USC...........(54-31-5) 63%----90 games flex
Texas........(42-32-3) 56%----77 games
N.Dame.....(48-49-4) 49%---101 games
Oklahoma..(53-57-5) 48%---115 games
Michigan....(42-49-3) 46%----94 games
Ohio State.(33-39-2) 46%----74 games
Alabama....(13-16-1) 45%----[ only 30 games ] sinking
Nebraska...(30-42-1) 42%----73 games

Now during your glory years:

From 1971 to 1981 Alabama had a marvelous record of 116-15-1 (88%) in 132 games.

But they were 98-5-1 95% (104g) vs Southern teams and 18-10 64% (28g) vs everybody else / Non-Southern teams.

Lets, take a look at Alabama from 1967 to 1975
From Alabama's Bowl game in 1967 to their season opener in 1975, they played only 12 games against Non-Southern teams.

Bama won only 2 of the 12 games vs Non-Southern teams going 2-9-1.

1967 Texas A&M 7-4 (Lost 20-16)
1968 Missouri 8-3 (Lost 35-10)
1969 Colordado 8-3 (Lost 47-33)
1970 USC 6-4-1 (Lost 42-21)
1970 Oklahoma 7-4-1 (Tie 24-24)
1971 @USC 6-4-1 (Won 17-10)
1971 Nebraska 13-0 (Lost 38-6)
1972 Texas 10-1 (Lost 17-13)
1973 California 4-7 (Won 66-0)
1973 Notre Dame 11-0 (Lost 24-23)
1974 Notre Dame 10-2 (Lost 13-11)
1975 Missouri 6-5 (Lost 20-7)

That 116-15-1 would turn into 84-48
if they played non-southern teams and continued to win only 64%.

Bama's record against notables:

Texas 1-7-1
Oklahoma 1-2-1
Notre Dame 1-5
Michigan 1-2

USC played 141 games vs the Elite 8.

Alabama played only 37 games vs the other all-time legendary programs.
Posted by aubiecat
Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
4200 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 7:25 pm to
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diddydirtyAubie


quote:

All time winning % against Top 30 programs.


Everybody here would shite themselves if they knew what you were talking about.
Posted by Slippery Slope
Hail Satan
Member since Nov 2010
20346 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 7:26 pm to
Earnhardt or Bama?

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