re: The SEC Big Six vs. The SEC Big Six in the Modern Era

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Cant understand how auburn is part of the big 4
SEC Championships:
Alabama:22
UT: 13
GA: 12
LSU: 11
UF: 9
au: 7
OM: 6
GT: 5
They have 1 more than Ole Miss and 2 more than Ga Tech ( Which left the SEC in 1965 ) and if you ask me they are not in the big 5...

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fify

And Less championships
And losing record vs LSU

UF is still relevant with these stats. I like.

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How many times have Aubies been penalized by the NCAA?

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Everytime Bama cheats.

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I've seen the mark of the modern era determined by things such as the use of full facemasks (1951) and the coaches poll, which was 1950.

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Sorry, but the modern era of SEC football has to be an era that included black athletes. When 80% of the starters for SEC football programs in 2011 were black, then the acceptance of black players in SEC schools is the beginning of the "modern era". Any other definition is totally and completely worthless.

Bama's first black player played in 1971. For, LSU it was 1972. That is the beginning of the modern era of SEC football.

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Bama's first black player played in 1971. For, LSU it was 1972. That is the beginning of the modern era of SEC football.

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But Kentucky and Arkansas had them sooner. Alabama had black walk-on as early as 1967. That isn't exactly the best standard to have a cut-off for the "modern era". It's going to be different for most every program.

You guys get my point (or should). With black players accounting for 80% of the starters in the SEC last year, their integration into the game is the single biggest factor in ushering football into the modern game that we all watch today.

I think any discussion of "modern college football" has to include the race that currently represents 80% of the participants starting the game. The athleticism and speed brought by blacks to the game of college football changed it forever.

Yes, Kentucky was the first SEC team to play a black player in 1967. Tennessee followed in 1968. Florida first played a black player on their varsity team in 1970. Bama, Auburn, and Georgia followed in 1971. LSU and Ole Miss first played a black player in 1972.

With the list above, you get a good idea that the early 70's were the dawn of the game that now represents modern football. If you want to use 1970 as a good, round number, then so be it. But, anything prior to 1970 is not modern football. It was a game played by players in most cases would never even see the field, much less excel in it with the addition of black athletes.

For anyone to say that football played in 1958 or 1965 represents what we watch today is lying to themselves.

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(For purposes of these calculations, I have defined "Modern Era" as 1950-2011)

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Not quite sure why this is considered the cutoff. Sooner fans do the same so there must be a basis. I always considered 'modern' (what we see today) as beginning in the 80's. Canes/FSU demonstrated speed kills, also with a strong passing attack, scholarship limitations (starting with 95 in 1977 then over time down to current 85) and most importantly, a plethora of TV stations. No longer could a coach say "Come here and momma can see you 7 times a year...go there and momma can see you 1 time a year...getting beat by us."
I'm not sure what year I would have cut-off but I would say FSU over NU 1/1/88 Fiesta Bowl sealed the deal on the new era being permanent.


Just imo.

Modern era should only include BCS