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re: Big 12/SEC Announcement coming today
Posted on 5/21/12 at 7:40 am to TejasHorn
Posted on 5/21/12 at 7:40 am to TejasHorn
This is going to be a great move for all involved. Either the ACC or Big12 was going to die in conference consolidation.
I think Slive and Co. made this alliance with the Big12 for the following reasons:
1) Control of the new game and guaranteeing a high payout slot for the #2 SEC team. The bowl operators should have been cut out of this process or their payday greatly reduced a long time ago.
2) Destabilize the ACC. If any teams move to the Big12, there is a high probability that the ACC will implode. SEC will target adding North Carolina and Virgina to the SEC television footprint from the ACC remnants to increase the television contract value.
3) Counter all the Big10/PAC12 chatter about the place the Rose Bowl should have in the coming playoff scheme.
I think Slive and Co. made this alliance with the Big12 for the following reasons:
1) Control of the new game and guaranteeing a high payout slot for the #2 SEC team. The bowl operators should have been cut out of this process or their payday greatly reduced a long time ago.
2) Destabilize the ACC. If any teams move to the Big12, there is a high probability that the ACC will implode. SEC will target adding North Carolina and Virgina to the SEC television footprint from the ACC remnants to increase the television contract value.
3) Counter all the Big10/PAC12 chatter about the place the Rose Bowl should have in the coming playoff scheme.
This post was edited on 5/21/12 at 7:47 am
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Posted on 5/21/12 at 7:46 am to Ag8556
@Ag8556,
I agree with this post 100%. I don't agree with tearing up conferences but that started happening years ago and is only growing.
Football is no longer associated with the Universities. It is now a semi-pro league for the NFL with on campus facilities. This latest move for playoffs will continue. ESPN is the driver. Fox is hot on their trail.
I agree with this post 100%. I don't agree with tearing up conferences but that started happening years ago and is only growing.
Football is no longer associated with the Universities. It is now a semi-pro league for the NFL with on campus facilities. This latest move for playoffs will continue. ESPN is the driver. Fox is hot on their trail.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 8:10 am to TejasHorn
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Big 12 is movin on up. Fact.
Facts require hard evidence. Here are some concrete facts:
-FACT 1: In 40 days, Texas A&M and Missouri will no longer be members of the Big 12 Conference.
-FACT 2: In two years, the Big 12 conference has reduced the number of AAU schools from 7 down to 3.
-FACT 3: The only conferences in the last 10 years who have replaced its lost members with members of a lesser quality are the Big East (replaced Miami, Virginia Tech, and Boston College with South Florida, Connecticut, and Louisville), and Big 12 (replaced Nebraska, Colorado, Texas A&M and Missouri - notice how you conveniently leave out the other two schools you drove away - with West Virginia and TCU).
-FACT 4: You're on an SEC board. Let me say this again, you're on an SEC board.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 8:26 am to CGSC Lobotomy
The Big12 is in a fight for survival with the ACC. I think they will be savy enough here that they will make an aggressive move to give the ACC the death blow.
If they are smart, they will offer Clemson and FSU a deal they can't refuse. Something like completely reimbursing their ACC exit fees without reducing their future conference payouts. They need to be smart enough to take the 100 year time horizon on this.
As long as the ACC exists as a viable football conference, the Big12's longterm survival is in question. All they have to do is pick off a couple of the main football schools from the ACC and the ACC will be a niche basketball conference at best.
If they are smart, they will offer Clemson and FSU a deal they can't refuse. Something like completely reimbursing their ACC exit fees without reducing their future conference payouts. They need to be smart enough to take the 100 year time horizon on this.
As long as the ACC exists as a viable football conference, the Big12's longterm survival is in question. All they have to do is pick off a couple of the main football schools from the ACC and the ACC will be a niche basketball conference at best.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 9:28 am to Ag8556
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SEC will target adding North Carolina and Virgina to the SEC television footprint from the ACC remnants to increase the television contract value.
big road blocks in getting those two markets
This post was edited on 5/21/12 at 9:29 am
Posted on 5/21/12 at 10:38 am to StraightCashHomey21
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big road blocks in getting those two markets
Hence the erosion of the ACC.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 11:58 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Hence the erosion of the ACC.
the ACC can become the BEv.2 which it basically already is and those two teams people think are on the table will be stuck there with out the blessing of the other state school
Posted on 5/21/12 at 12:43 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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and those two teams people think are on the table will be stuck there with out the blessing of the other state school
You mean like the fact that it was impossible for A&M to leave the Big 12 on its own without the sips' "blessing"?
Posted on 5/21/12 at 12:52 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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You mean like the fact that it was impossible for A&M to leave the Big 12 on its own without the sips' "blessing"?
UNC and State are under the same education board as some people have posted, might have to double check on that
VT well long story short when they were not asked to join the ACC kicked and screamed and even sued the ACC all while asking UVA to push their weight around convincing the other schools to extend an offer.
You aggies seemed to be in a totally different situation being sick of Texas's shite and for good reason and with yall having enough power in the state you gave texas the bird and said peace
This post was edited on 5/21/12 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 5/21/12 at 1:12 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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UNC and State are under the same education board as some people have posted, might have to double check on that
Same university system. As are Florida and Florida State, Georgia and Georgia Tech, Alabama and Auburn, etc.
In fact, besides Texas, the only state that has two separate major university systems is Michigan.
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