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re: Arkansas should let Petrino go and move on
Posted on 4/6/12 at 8:55 am to Jon Ham
Posted on 4/6/12 at 8:55 am to Jon Ham
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He set the program's standards to a higher level than ever before,
REALLY? Arkansas has a National Championship. Arkansas has at least two SEC Appearances. None of which involve Petrino.
Arkansas has won in the past, and can win again. I'my mystified by the Arkansas fan base--so on love with a guy that brings them to 2nd and 3rd place.
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Posted on 4/6/12 at 8:57 am to MThawg
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In what job do you hire someone to sex them up, lie to your boss about it, break contract rules, and keep your job?
One in which you are literally making the "company" you work for millions upon millions of dollars each year, and where there is nobody even close to being equivalent to you available on the market.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 8:57 am to Grievous Angel
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Arkansas has a National Championship.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 8:59 am to Grievous Angel
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Arkansas has won in the past, and can win again. I'my mystified by the Arkansas fan base--so on love with a guy that brings them to 2nd and 3rd place.
you really this dumb?
Posted on 4/6/12 at 8:59 am to sugatowng
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you really this dumb?
Yes.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 9:01 am to bpfergu
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One in which you are literally making the "company" you work for millions upon millions of dollars each year, and where there is nobody even close to being equivalent to you available on the market.
Sucks but this shouldn't be what keeps his job.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 9:01 am to GABlueDog
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This is an about face of sorts. Its not like Petrino just became a douchebag a couple days ago. I remember when he was acting like a jackass on national tv, yelling frick you across the field and most of you guys thought that was awesome. Or the post-it note departure that y'all tirelessly defended as being a necessary and justified act. Not to mention the scheming he did to throw his former mentor under the bus and take his place at Auburn where he was portrayed as being merely an ambitious person.
This.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 9:01 am to bpfergu
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One in which you are literally making the "company" you work for millions upon millions of dollars each year, and where there is nobody even close to being equivalent to you available on the market.
I shouldn't be amazed by it because of the world we live in today but I can't help myself but feeling sorry for those that will justify behavior like Petrino's just for the sake of the almighty dollar. You will try to hang on to a proven scumbag like Petrino because you feel some superiority to consistent third place finishes. You will also jeopardize the integrity of the university over a football coach.
This is what happens when you build someone up to larger than life status. I have said this to Arkansas fans on here several times. The coach worship was pretty sad by Arkansas fans. It's time to come back to reality.
Just a pitiful situation all around.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 9:02 am to Pigfeet
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The fans that matter are standing firmly in Petrino's corner.
This is laughable. The fans that matter are the ones who care most about the schools reputation - not just it's on the field performance. The "fans that matter" are the ones who Long is talking with today. I would imagine his investigation has three phases:
1) How quickly and cleanly can we get out of this contract (if we determine to do so) and what risk, if any, do we have of suit from BP?
2) Phone calls to the big money people (i.e. the "fans that matter") about their thoughts on the situation, will they help cover buyout of new coach, etc.
3) Calls to agents to gage interest in new coaches. They'll want to hear answers to steps 1 & 2 first, but they'll have a plan in place if they hear what they need to. Jeff Long is impressive.
For the fans claiming this is "no big deal" you need to get a clue. She's his subordinate. She already has grounds to sue him & the university for sexual harassment. Her job is likely never going to work out now, her engagement is likely off. The best thing she has going for her is the possibility of suit.
Mike Price didn't sleep with a subordinate at Alabama, but he did allow a stripper to use his university credit card for over $1,000 of room service. He embarassed the university (in May) and lost his job. Same should happen to Petrino b/c his is worse.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 9:03 am to bamasgot13
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Mike Price didn't sleep with a subordinate at Alabama, but he did allow a stripper to use his university credit card for over $1,000 of room service. He embarassed the university (in May) and lost his job. Same should happen to Petrino b/c his is worse.
Mike Price also never coached a down at Bama before he got fired.
Would Bama fire Nick Saban if news broke today that he did the exact same thing as Price?
Posted on 4/6/12 at 9:07 am to Jon Ham
This guy is a magnet for bad PR.
Auburn plane fiasco
Falcons departure
Les Miles deal
now this
I think it should be clear to everyone know - including Arkansas fans - that Petrino is a POS. He may be a good/great coach, but he's a POS. I guess the question for Arkansas fans becomes: What is more important?...Integrity or Winning.
Auburn plane fiasco
Falcons departure
Les Miles deal
now this
I think it should be clear to everyone know - including Arkansas fans - that Petrino is a POS. He may be a good/great coach, but he's a POS. I guess the question for Arkansas fans becomes: What is more important?...Integrity or Winning.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 9:07 am to TheCheshireHog
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Would Bama fire Nick Saban if news broke today that he did the exact same thing as Price?
So you are saying wins > what is right and integrity of the university?
I hope to god you aren't serious. I don't post much on the SEC rant but read a lot. You are definitely one of the better hog posters. But I just can't see how anyone that is serious can actually support actions like Petrino's. Especially since he has a proven track record of being a scumbag.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 9:09 am to BeeFense5
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So you are saying wins > what is right and integrity of the university?
I hope to god you aren't serious. I don't post much on the SEC rant but read a lot. You are definitely one of the better hog posters. But I just can't see how anyone that is serious can actually support actions like Petrino's. Especially since he has a proven track record of being a scumbag.
I've said since last night before the news conference that I think he will be fired.
However, I do think to a lot of people who donate the big money that wins > integrity.
The question is who will Long listen to on this one.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 9:09 am to BeeFense5
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I shouldn't be amazed by it because of the world we live in today but I can't help myself but feeling sorry for those that will justify behavior like Petrino's just for the sake of the almighty dollar. You will try to hang on to a proven scumbag like Petrino because you feel some superiority to consistent third place finishes. You will also jeopardize the integrity of the university over a football coach.
This is what happens when you build someone up to larger than life status. I have said this to Arkansas fans on here several times. The coach worship was pretty sad by Arkansas fans. It's time to come back to reality.
Just a pitiful situation all around.
It happens all the time in the real world. An employee screws up, goes against the code of ethics, etc., and is generally fired. However, if that employee is the life source of the company, and the boss knows that he won't find a replacement that is as good, then exceptions are sometimes made.
Personally, I think you are taking all of this way too seriously. The "integrity of the university" isn't going to be tarnished if Petrino stays. Everybody knows that football is there to make money, and nothing more. SEC football has never been an epitome of integrity, anyways.
You can call it whatever you want, but Long's main purpose is to make money through the athletic program. Football is the primary cash cow here. He knows that this will blow over in time, as all things do. He just has to decide if dealing with the flak of keeping Petrino on is worth the continued success or if he is better off setting the program back 10+ years and losing a lot of revenue just to get a temporary pat on the back from judgmental people of opposing fan bases.
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Posted on 4/6/12 at 9:10 am to BeeFense5
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So you are saying wins > what is right and integrity of the university?
I don't think Chesire's saying that at all. I think he's just saying that if the same thing happened at Bama, you'd see the same battle going on in that fan base as in ours.
I've said it before, Jeff Long is in a terrible situation. One look at Hogville is all you need to know to understand that. If you even say that there's the possibility Petrino COULD be fired, you're either a Nutt Hugger, a Bible thumping Puritan, or a Troll.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 9:11 am to TheCheshireHog
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you really this dumb?
It's a legit question he asks Sugatown. What is so glorious about 3rd place. Nuttsack won the west once and tied for 1st in the west 2 other times. Bobby, not so much. What's that sound....sounds like the flagship is taking on water.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 9:11 am to Miz Piggy
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I don't think Chesire's saying that at all. I think he's just saying that if the same thing happened at Bama, you'd see the same battle going on in that fan base as in ours.
Yes, that is exactly what I was saying.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 9:12 am to TheCheshireHog
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Would Bama fire Nick Saban if news broke today that he did the exact same thing as Price?
The Robot Saban has absolutely no interest in earthly carnal pleasures.
Know what makes Saban jizz? Crystal footballs, that's what.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 9:13 am to Jon Ham
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Can't believe I'm typing this.
Last year, our offensive line took a hit when Anthony Oden got another DUI. Then Rasner got poppoed with some criminal offense, then Peacock, then Whitehurst, and now this "scandal" from Petrino. Just way too much "shite" going on for what should be a top notch program.
He's a hell of coach, and I honestly believe he's 2nd behind Saban in terms of ability. But he fricked up majorly and we need to right the ship. Bring in Paul Petrino, Gus, or Garrick McGee. Petrino has laid an awesome foundation and any of those guys can continue upon his success.
He set the program's standards to a higher level than ever before, and because of that we can't put up with this kind of nonsense.
All of these statements personify Arkansas completely.
So cute. Y'all are just so cute.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 9:14 am to beatbammer
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Know what makes Saban jizz? Crystal footballs, that's what.
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