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re: Which SEC school has the worst overall sports program currently?

Posted on 2/15/12 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by busey
First Coast, Florida
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Posted on 2/15/12 at 1:55 pm to
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Bama football is much bigger and has a lot more money flowing into the athletic program that UK basketball.


I highly doubt it. Bama football probably does have more money flowing in because it's football. Duh.

But UK is in horse country and a shite ton of those people are boosters. You better believe there is more money in central KY/Louisville than in and around Tuscaloosa and/or Birmingham
This post was edited on 2/15/12 at 1:58 pm
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
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Posted on 2/15/12 at 1:58 pm to
I would think percentage wise, the amout of money put in vs the amount of revenue generated, UK basketball and Bama football would be about the same.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
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Posted on 2/15/12 at 2:00 pm to
Mountain Brook (AL) is one of the richest per capita areas in the nation.

Florida needs to compare itself to Texas, USC---schools in huge pop. states. Nobody gives a flip about volleyball
Posted by busey
First Coast, Florida
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Posted on 2/15/12 at 2:00 pm to
That's what I'm saying. Of course any football program will be bringing in more money than any basketball program because football brings in WAY more revenue and will bring in more donations because it simply requires more money to run a football program.
Posted by 3rdandlong83
Alabama
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Posted on 2/15/12 at 2:00 pm to
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Which SEC school has the worst overall sports program currently?


Ole Miss.
Posted by busey
First Coast, Florida
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/15/12 at 2:01 pm to
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Mountain Brook (AL) is one of the richest per capita areas in the nation.


I'm aware. I assure you the average income is nowhere near that of those involved in the horse industry.
This post was edited on 2/15/12 at 2:02 pm
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/15/12 at 2:01 pm to
Auburn.

The Plains are burning.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
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Posted on 2/15/12 at 2:06 pm to
I'll take your word for it. Doesn't mean squat in terms of college athletics, 'though. Heck, most Kentuckians will tell you Louisville is a midwest city.
Posted by AUnite
The Tragic City
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/15/12 at 2:07 pm to
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Doesn't mean squat in terms of college athletics,

So why did you bring Mountain Brook into the discussion?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 2/15/12 at 2:07 pm to
For the record - and I'm not sure if this has been posted - but I believe Bama is the only school in the SEC that rank in the top 3 winningest programs in the SEC in all 3 major sports - Football, Baseball, and Basketball.

No National Championships to show for anything other than Football... but historically speaking, we have an elite athletic department compared to the rest of the SEC.
Posted by busey
First Coast, Florida
Member since Feb 2010
22958 posts
Posted on 2/15/12 at 2:07 pm to
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most Kentuckians will tell you Louisville is a midwest city.


I'm from Louisville and I don't know anyone who believes that, from Louisville or elsewhere. It's nickname is "The Gateway to the South".
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
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18300 posts
Posted on 2/15/12 at 2:07 pm to
it was a response to $$$ in general.
Posted by America1776
USA
Member since Jul 2010
1537 posts
Posted on 2/15/12 at 2:15 pm to
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top 15 Football, Gym top 5, Track number 1 baby quote: How many SEC schools can claim that?

How many schools want to claim that?
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9110 posts
Posted on 2/15/12 at 2:26 pm to
Just from a quick search I found these Alabama teams/programs and their current national ranking in no particular order:

Football - #1 (won national title)
College baseball - #33 preseason
Softball - #2 (highest ranked SEC team)
Gymnastics - #6
Men's Golf - #8 (2nd highest ranked SEC team)
Women's Golf - #2 (highest ranked SEC team)
Men's Swimming - #17
Women's Tennis - #22

The basketball team while currently unranked was ranked as high as #11 earlier in the season. Although they've played poorly recently they still have a decent shot at earning an at large NCAA tourney bid.

I'd say all in all this seems to be a well rounded athletic program. If Alabama can get the basketball program back to the better than average level it was throughout the 70s, 80s, and most of the 90s and the baseball program to the level that Jim Wells routinely had it at then the athletic program will be a Top 4 SEC athletic program which is all you can really ask for.
Posted by busey
First Coast, Florida
Member since Feb 2010
22958 posts
Posted on 2/15/12 at 2:30 pm to
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How many schools want to claim that?


Exactly. I'll take our basketball program (hopefully with another NC soon), occasional success in football, and basically being irrelevant in baseball over Arky's "always the bridesmaid never the bride" approach. I'd rather be the best at something than pretty good at everything.
Posted by FulmersGonnaFixIt
Brentwood, TN (Utopia)
Member since Jun 2011
3170 posts
Posted on 2/15/12 at 2:33 pm to
Since they started keeping Director's Cup standings in 1992 or 1993, Alabama has never finished ahead of Tennessee. Alabama is usually about 5th or 6th overall in the SEC. Florida is usually 1st followed by UGA, Tennessee, and LSU who flip flop based on the year.
Posted by America1776
USA
Member since Jul 2010
1537 posts
Posted on 2/15/12 at 2:35 pm to
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Exactly. I'll take our basketball program (hopefully with another NC soon), occasional success in football, and basically being irrelevant in baseball over Arky's "always the bridesmaid never the bride" approach. I'd rather be the best at something than pretty good at everything

Exactly. I think (Eventhough baseball is a positive for LSU) there's really only 2 sports that people care about year round, Arkansas just happens to be good at a few of the ones that people only read about on their university's website.
This post was edited on 2/15/12 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9110 posts
Posted on 2/15/12 at 2:44 pm to
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Since they started keeping Director's Cup standings in 1992 or 1993, Alabama has never finished ahead of Tennessee. Alabama is usually about 5th or 6th overall in the SEC. Florida is usually 1st followed by UGA, Tennessee, and LSU who flip flop based on the year.


Alabama finished 3rd last year behind Florida and Georgia according to a Florida poster on page 4 so that's not entirely true. Most year that's the case because there is equal weight to all the sports and Alabama has sucked complete a## in women's basketball, men's and women's track and field, women's swimming, and men's tennis all of which are sports that most SEC schools are really good at. Alabama is usually great at 1 of the big 3, solid in the other 2 Big 3 sports, great in 2 or 3 spring sports, and absolutely horrible in all the other sports. It all adds up to average at best Sears Cup numbers. Last year, we happened to be really good in more sports than normal.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79784 posts
Posted on 2/15/12 at 2:45 pm to
If you want to talk in terms of conference championships:

Florida - 180
Kentucky - 135
Georgia - 108
Tennessee - 96
LSU - 76
Alabama - 74
Auburn - 53
Mississippi State - 27
Ole Miss - 21
Vanderbilt - 23
South Carolina - 10
Arkansas - 6

I don't think that includes every sport, just what I was able to find on wikipedia.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60083 posts
Posted on 2/15/12 at 2:46 pm to
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Arkansas - 6


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