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re: ESPN Bracket Projections
Posted on 2/7/12 at 8:53 am to Govt Tide
Posted on 2/7/12 at 8:53 am to Govt Tide
When Arkansas beats Bama by 30 at home, that will end that discussion. They had the cheapest win by far over them a few weeks ago. Now it's going to be payback. You guys lost to SCe for christ sake.
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Posted on 2/7/12 at 9:13 am to ShreveportHog94
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When Arkansas beats Bama by 30 at home, that will end that discussion. They had the cheapest win by far over them a few weeks ago. Now it's going to be payback. You guys lost to SCe for christ sake.
ONLY bad loss all season. All the other losses up until this point are to very solid tourney locks or to solid mid major teams on the road. A close last second loss to #11 Georgetown, road loss to Top 50 RPI Kansas State, road loss to Top 50 RPI Dayton, close last minute road loss to #1 Kentucky, close last minute road loss to #18 Mississippi State, and loss to Top 30 RPI Vandy. A loss at Arkansas will hardly be considered a bad loss considering Arky hasn't lost at home yet this year.
It's real simple this year for Alabama. Get to 9-7 in conference and end up either an 8, 9, or 10 seed in the tourney. Finish 8-8 and end up a 10, 11, or possibly in one of the play in games. Alabama will get the same treatment Georgia got last year and get in with a mediocre conference record because of their strong OOC RPI and SOS.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 11:28 am to Govt Tide
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The guy thinks that just because he has UNC Tarheels emoticon by his name that his word on the matter is gospel. It was a mis-worded phrase on my part btw. Obviously there's no such thing as multiple AUTOMATIC bids from one conference.
I just checked the latest RPI's from the CBS link and Alabama is #33, not #34. To put that in perspective, 2 SEC teams considered tourney locks Vandy and Mississippi State are #29 and #31 respectively. Alabama needs to finish 9-7 to be comfortably in the tournament. I still think 8-8 will be enough but it won't be a comfortable selection Sunday at that mark. We'd also be flirting with the play in game at 8-8.
Actually I follow college basketball religiously. I don't go in to football threads with ridiculous nonsense because I don't follow football that much. There is no way you could have "mis-worded" that phrase that bad.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 11:41 am to HoLeInOnEr05
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Actually I follow college basketball religiously. I don't go in to football threads with ridiculous nonsense because I don't follow football that much. There is no way you could have "mis-worded" that phrase that bad.
I don't follow basketball (or football) "religiously" but I love both sports equally and have been a big Alabama basketball fan for 30 years so I didn't just start paying attention the other day. I accidentally used the word "automatic" and wasn't online last night to correct my wording but it's obvious to anyone not trying to be a d##### what I meant.
My point still stands either way. Alabama doesn't have to go 10-6 in conference to make the tourney due to its OOC record. It's the same situation that allowed a very very average Georgia team who Alabama beat twice in the last week of the season and who finished with a much worse conference record than Alabama to get into the NCAA tournament last year. 2011 Georgia had a better record against a much better OOC schedule than 2011 Alabama. It's the same situation with this year's Alabama team. Their strong OOC RPI and solid overall RPI is going to allow them to get in with a 9-7 or even an 8-8 record.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 12:23 pm to Govt Tide
Fair enough ... 
Posted on 2/7/12 at 12:31 pm to bbap
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Word. Yall are a lock for a 1 seed.
No, what I'm saying is that it's almost a given considering our history that were we ever a 1-seed, we'd be the first 1 to lose to a 16.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 12:39 pm to Govt Tide
Arkansas has already beaten 2 of your loses and Michigan. Add that with the absolute arse whooping they are going to put on you and hopefully a win against Florida. No way Tide is a better team. I watched the 2 play and it was obvious who the better team was.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 12:41 pm to ShreveportHog94
The more SEC teams that get in the better IMO. It means something in voters minds in later years and helps our conference RPI as well.
I am pulling for any and all teams from the SEC to make the tourney.
I am pulling for any and all teams from the SEC to make the tourney.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 1:11 pm to ShreveportHog94
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Arkansas has already beaten 2 of your loses and Michigan. Add that with the absolute arse whooping they are going to put on you and hopefully a win against Florida. No way Tide is a better team. I watched the 2 play and it was obvious who the better team was.
I'm not sure why you're starting an argument between Alabama and Arkansas in the first place. I'm simply arguing why Bama definitely gets in with a 9-7 SEC record and probably gets in with a 8-8 SEC record.
Since you started the pissing contest I'll play along. Alabama has beaten 2 of you losses as well and has a nice road/neutral win over Wichita State. Alabama also have fewer bad losses (1 @ USCe as opposed to at least 3 for Arky @ Oklahoma, Houston, @ LSU). Alabama has an RPI of #33 with the #15 SOS while Arkansas has an RPI of 60 with the #63 SOS.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 1:46 pm to WG_Dawg
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It's early February, there's still plenty of time to play your way in.
You sir, are the Bomb.
bubble teams can not play themself into the tournament by winning a few games in the conference tournament. bubble teams can only win your way into the tournament by winning ALL your conference tourney games.
The committee is busy looking over your regular season resume while you are playing your opening round games...therefore your opening round games mean NOTHING.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 2:00 pm to JETigER
For the record realtimerpi.com has us in with finishing at 8-8. Our RPI is decent and will get better after we play MSU, UK and Vandy. We have 2 good wins against 2 top 40 RPI teams in MSU and Miami. We dont have a bad loss in no conference. USM MTSU and Marquette are all but in and Daytin has a good shot. Our worst loss is @Aub in 2ot. We have a pretty solid resume. 1 more big win and if we avoid a loss to Aub and LSU at home and we should be in.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 2:06 pm to HottyToddy7
Ole Miss has had a really nice season. Unfortunately, I'm afraid the selection committee is going to screw another SEC team out of a bid so it may end up coming down to Alabama, Ole Miss, and Arkansas for the last 1 or 2 SEC bids. 
Posted on 2/7/12 at 2:13 pm to ShreveportHog94
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Arkansas has already beaten 2 of your loses and Michigan. Add that with the absolute arse whooping they are going to put on you and hopefully a win against Florida. No way Tide is a better team. I watched the 2 play and it was obvious who the better team was.
Alabama's resume stacks up more favorably at this point in almost every category (off the top of my head Alabama's resume beats Arkansas in at least these selection categories: RPI, SOS, bad losses, head to head).
As for your comment about the arse whooping Arkansas is "going" to put on Bama and that there is "no way Tide is a better team" I simply refer you to the scoreboard. 72-66
I guess what I am saying is your post is pretty laughable.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 2:25 pm to Govt Tide
Well if we return the favor to y'all at home and find a way to beat Arkanas there then I don't know how we would be the team left out.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 2:26 pm to kilo
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I am pulling for any and all teams from the SEC to make the tourney.
Even Arkansaw?
Posted on 2/7/12 at 2:44 pm to HottyToddy7
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Well if we return the favor to y'all at home and find a way to beat Arkanas there then I don't know how we would be the team left out.
I tend to agree. I think it's a situation where 2 of the 3 get in and I think that based on schedule and resume that Alabama and Ole Miss have the inside track over Arkansas. That's not to dismiss Arkansas as they have a legit shot. I just think Alabama and Ole Miss have better resumes and Arkansas has more ground to make up than those 2.
Posted on 2/11/12 at 11:35 pm to Govt Tide
Bump 
Posted on 2/11/12 at 11:37 pm to HoLeInOnEr05
Yeah you're so fricking smart. Everyone definitely saw Alabama suspending our top 4 players. Woo
Posted on 2/11/12 at 11:40 pm to Bryant91092
But the same still holds true. At 9-7, we will be pretty much assured a spot and 8-8 will make us very nervous on selection Sunday depending on what we do in the conference tourney.
Posted on 2/11/12 at 11:40 pm to HoLeInOnEr05
Holy shite. You're an oracle. You could envision 47 of 66 ppg being suspended.
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