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Tweet from Dennis Dodd (CBS) about cecil newton rule
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:07 am
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:07 am
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dennisdoddcbs Dennis Dodd I am told the impetus for the Cecil Newton Rule, actually started with Alabama's Andre Smith.
Wtf is he talking about?
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Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:08 am to jso0003
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:08 am to jso0003
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:09 am to Swoopin
Swoopin, you in a fraternity at tech?
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:09 am to jso0003
It was a family member of Andre's that hooked him up with the agent he talked to that caused him to be inelligeble for the Sugar bowl when Bama played Utah, I think.
Just what I heard
Just what I heard
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:09 am to jso0003
Idk WTF he's talking about. Smith's problem was speaking with / working with an agent before the Sugarbowl. I don't remember any funny business with his recruitment.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:10 am to boddagetta
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inelligeble
I don't see how this is related to the Cam saga.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:10 am to jso0003
There's no loop hole anymore, but I think it makes things worse. Want to make a star player ineligible? Call up the school and ask for money, pretending to be his agent.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:11 am to jso0003
I'm assuming he is referring to the incident where we chose to sit out Andre for the Utah Sugar Bowl after learning some uncle was talking to agents. As far as we knew, Andre was not aware of this and wasn't even that close to the uncle, but we sat him anyways.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:11 am to jso0003
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Wtf is he talking about?
The reason Bama didn't let Andre play in the 2009 Sugar Bowl was the rumor that his family had talked to an agent after the regular season. The time that Utah beat Bama.
He never played another down for Alabama after that.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:12 am to jso0003
He had Lsu. 
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:12 am to jso0003
The NCAA Legislative Council on Wednesday officially passed a new rule designating any parent as an agent if he or she is found to be soliciting the services of a son or daughter to an NCAA institution, according to a report by CBSSports.com.
Cecil Newton Rule
Cecil Newton Rule
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:15 am to CapstoneGrad06
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There's no loop hole anymore, but I think it makes things worse. Want to make a star player ineligible? Call up the school and ask for money, pretending to be his agent.
I worry about this too, although it appears the rule mostly applies to parents. Closing the loophole may be worse than having the loophole. There has to be a procedure to protect an athlete's eligibility from trash family members. With the backgrounds half these players come from, they have to be more cautious of family than they do of agents.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 11:16 am
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:17 am to Teague
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I don't see how this is related to the Cam saga.
Both had family members shopping them around without them knowing about it.
And if that was suppossed to be a spelling BOOM, then....
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:20 am to Monticello
I hope that in future cases, they would act similarly in that: if no money every changes hand, the kid shouldn't be ineligible. If a Parent tries and gets money but is shot down, I see no reason the kid shouldn't still be able to play at that school, unless they are in on it. I don't know if that is how they will enforce this new rule, but I think that is how they should.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:22 am to jso0003
So basically Andre should've just acted like he had never heard about his family pimping him out.
I'm thinking Auburn got the better end of that deal.
I'm thinking Auburn got the better end of that deal.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:24 am to deaux68
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So basically Andre should've just acted like he had never heard about his family pimping him out.
I'm thinking Auburn got the better end of that deal.
Cam smarter than Andre, yo.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:25 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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I hope that in future cases, they would act similarly in that: if no money every changes hand, the kid shouldn't be ineligible. If a Parent tries and gets money but is shot down, I see no reason the kid shouldn't still be able to play at that school, unless they are in on it. I don't know if that is how they will enforce this new rule, but I think that is how they should.
I agree. The hard part is with the NCAA's limited investigation powers, it is nearly impossible for the NCAA to prove a kid knew something. Knowledge and intent are all necessary elements of nearly every criminal case, but the prosecution has the power to subpoena witnesses to build a case. The NCAA relies solely on self reporting and whistle blowers who choose to talk but do not have to.
It's easier just to say that if a parent shops you, you are ineligible, but this will definitely lead to some sad cases of star players losing their careers because of some crack addict mother or sleazy father.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:25 am to jso0003
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dennisdoddcbs Dennis Dodd I am told the impetus for the Cecil Newton Rule, actually started with Alabama's Andre Smith
If this is true then it is interesting how nothing was done to implement such a rule until 3 years later when the national outcry was very strong. That is usually what it takes however for big changes to be made in any organization or group is loud protest or outrage.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:28 am to deaux68
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So basically Andre should've just acted like he had never heard about his family pimping him out.
Bama was not going to play him for one game regardless of what Andre knew. It was not worth the risk. We have a dominant program on reload mode every year and the only thing that can stop us is another damn NCAA investigation. We won't hesitate to sit a player if we think there could be trouble in the future.
This is where USC was stupid. Reggie Bush was awesome but they would have won just as many games if they benched him. When you are loaded with talent, you can't let one guy bring you down.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 11:30 am
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