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Question about Nick

Posted on 1/6/12 at 9:15 am
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
2926 posts
Posted on 1/6/12 at 9:15 am
I'm sure somebody is going to berate me for bringing this up, as it has probably been beat to death in the past, but why is it if Saban is the "greatest coach in college football" that he flopped in his attempt to be HC in the NFL? Does anyone have any insight or opinion about this?

Posted by bree
Member since Aug 2011
218 posts
Posted on 1/6/12 at 9:17 am to
Pro players would not let him intimiate him like college kids
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32374 posts
Posted on 1/6/12 at 9:20 am to
He's not the greatest coach in college football. Fact.
Posted by Drex
Kenner, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
234 posts
Posted on 1/6/12 at 9:23 am to
Nicky likes total control over every aspect of his team. He couldn't deal with the parts of the organization over which he had no control. He couldn't deal with player's egos and agendas. He flourishes at the college level because all decisions and player issues go through him- Little Napolean.
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
15876 posts
Posted on 1/6/12 at 9:24 am to
why ask exclusivlely about Saban? how about Erickson, or Spurrier? some peopel are meant to be college coaches - some are meant for the NFL. some are great Coordinators and shitty HC's.

its just the way that it is.
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 1/6/12 at 9:24 am to
Saban's a good college football coach. His discipline and control delivers a high percentage of wins. However, LSU is driving the guy nuts by beating him. Expect a higher level of play to escalate between LSU and Bama for the next 5 years. I'm starting to believe we could have a repeat NC game between LSU and Bama next year.
Posted by Party At LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
10691 posts
Posted on 1/6/12 at 9:26 am to
quote:

Pro players would not let him intimiate him like college kids


Except for Manny Wright.
Posted by Silverback
Gumpin' ain't easy
Member since Aug 2011
4305 posts
Posted on 1/6/12 at 9:27 am to
quote:

intimiate


Different levels of responsibility require different styles of leadership.
This post was edited on 1/6/12 at 9:29 am
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
2926 posts
Posted on 1/6/12 at 9:28 am to
The reason I ask about Saban is because there is this cult-like persona that has been built up about him in the media (especially on ESPN)), as if his poop doesn't stink.

Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
15876 posts
Posted on 1/6/12 at 9:30 am to
I agree - and in retrospect - my reply should not have started the way I did - i was just offering an answer.

sorry if it came across as kinda douche-ish.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83335 posts
Posted on 1/6/12 at 9:31 am to
Probably has to do with how good he is at all aspects of being a coach. His teams are VERY good. His defenses are VERY good. He is the best recruiter. He's done what he's doing at 2 schools. Not saying he's the best but not considering him would be insane.
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 1/6/12 at 9:34 am to
quote:

he flopped in his attempt to be HC in the NFL


That's a stretch. He took over a bad team. Miami's doctors suggested passing on Brees. He only coached there two years.
Posted by Silverback
Gumpin' ain't easy
Member since Aug 2011
4305 posts
Posted on 1/6/12 at 9:37 am to
quote:

That's a stretch. He took over a bad team. Miami's doctors suggested passing on Brees. He only coached there two years


I agree but think about it....being the Coach that told Brees "No thanks"

That kind of stuff will keep you awake at night
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 1/6/12 at 9:46 am to
If you will recall, Saban wanted Drew Brees for the Dolphins, but the team doctor would not clear him. Dolphins went with Daunte Culpepper and the rest is history. I often wonder that if Saban had prevailed with Drew Brees, then maybe he would have adjusted to the pros.

Saban is all about the entire structure of an organization and everyone within contributing by doing their very best to make the organization successful. At Bama, he gets the complete co operation of everyone from the President on down.

There was a plan to revitalize the U of AL to rise from the ashes of probation. Dr. Witt, Mal Moore and other University officials began initiatives before Saban came to campus. During the "dark days", a very strategic rebuilding of the physical plant and positive brand building has produced big gains and has transformed the U of A.

Saban recognized that he would have the tools and support that would enable him to succeed. That is hard to do in the pros.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 1/6/12 at 9:47 am to
Bama makes good coaches great.
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