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BAMA...drop your bogus claims for 12, 13, or 27 National Championships
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:36 am
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:36 am
Do this and we might be OK with letting you "back-in" to the game on 1/9. If not, we win this weekend, and we claim another one regardless of the outcome on 1/9. Deal??
"Quoted from Spitting Fire"...
12 National Championships? … The Real Story
I just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions about Alabama’s claim to 12 national championships based on fact rather than bias. Credit is given where credit is due.
To clear up confusion, the word retroactive means they went back in time to award the championship.
‘TWELVE’ national championships is fraudulent, nothing but pure bunk ginned up by the SID Department. Here’s a rundown:
1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.
The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 – 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 – Current.
1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!
1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!
1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!
1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!
1961 National Championship- Finally a legitimate NC. .
1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.
1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.
1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course.
1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.
1979 National Championship- Their second legitimate NC. Their first Unanimous NC.
1992 National Championship- Their third legitimate NC. Their second Unanimous NC.
2009 National Championship - BAMA definately earned this one...on the field!
You can see why people ridicule Bama fans when they talk about 12 NCs. The early ones were awarded by individuals years after the games were played. These weren’t consensus polls but NCs awarded by people that had their own formula for determining champions. Some NCs were given before bowl games that Bama lost. Using Alabama logic, Auburn could claim four national championships. But when Bammers brag they like to say they have twelve and Auburn has one. How silly. The NCAA recognizes 6 NCs for Bama and there are only two NCs that Bama has unanimously. You can’t find an Auburn site claiming four national championships but there are plenty Bama sites claiming
"Quoted from Spitting Fire"...
12 National Championships? … The Real Story
I just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions about Alabama’s claim to 12 national championships based on fact rather than bias. Credit is given where credit is due.
To clear up confusion, the word retroactive means they went back in time to award the championship.
‘TWELVE’ national championships is fraudulent, nothing but pure bunk ginned up by the SID Department. Here’s a rundown:
1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.
The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 – 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 – Current.
1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!
1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!
1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!
1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!
1961 National Championship- Finally a legitimate NC. .
1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.
1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.
1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course.
1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.
1979 National Championship- Their second legitimate NC. Their first Unanimous NC.
1992 National Championship- Their third legitimate NC. Their second Unanimous NC.
2009 National Championship - BAMA definately earned this one...on the field!
You can see why people ridicule Bama fans when they talk about 12 NCs. The early ones were awarded by individuals years after the games were played. These weren’t consensus polls but NCs awarded by people that had their own formula for determining champions. Some NCs were given before bowl games that Bama lost. Using Alabama logic, Auburn could claim four national championships. But when Bammers brag they like to say they have twelve and Auburn has one. How silly. The NCAA recognizes 6 NCs for Bama and there are only two NCs that Bama has unanimously. You can’t find an Auburn site claiming four national championships but there are plenty Bama sites claiming
This post was edited on 11/30/11 at 11:07 am
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:37 am to SL Tiger
They'll claim one this year too. Even after losing to LSU twice.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:38 am to SL Tiger
i fw'd this thread to Mal Moore. he'll take care of it for you
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:41 am to SL Tiger
LOL.. the 12 thing is getting old.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:44 am to j1897
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LOL.. the 12 thing is getting old.
you should hear their radio network....i swear that Josef Goebbels had a son who survived the furherbunker and is working there....
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:44 am to SL Tiger
Appears you have done some good research, thanks. But be prepared for the onslaught!
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:46 am to SL Tiger
They won one a few years ago that was pretty legit
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:49 am to Swat5
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They won one a few years ago that was pretty legit
Yeah, but would they have won if Colt McCoy would not have been "hurt."
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:49 am to SL Tiger
I have to say thanks for what you posted.
I need clarification on how the A-holes came up with such a ridiculous number.
I need clarification on how the A-holes came up with such a ridiculous number.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:50 am to j1897
The 12 thing is getting old for the entire country...but mostly for us SEC fans. I think this is the "entitlement" that we keep reading about...
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:50 am to SL Tiger
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SID Department
OT: But I hate when people do this.
It's like SEC Conference.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:56 am to SL Tiger
update your post to include the 2009 title...
So, really, Bama has 4 or 5 legit titles...
Texas also claims a phony title...they claim one in 1970, but they lost their bowl game that year. Claiming a title in a year in which you lost your last game is a joke.
So, really, Bama has 4 or 5 legit titles...
Texas also claims a phony title...they claim one in 1970, but they lost their bowl game that year. Claiming a title in a year in which you lost your last game is a joke.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:56 am to SL Tiger
Any link for this so people don't think I pulled it out of my arse when I try to tell my Gump coworkers
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:58 am to TigersWon
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It's 13 NC
of which 7 are legit or so they say. Some say they have 8 legit titles. either way they know someone cooked the books and know that 13 number is garbage.
This post was edited on 11/30/11 at 11:01 am
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:59 am to SL Tiger
Somesone is obsessed with Bama.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:59 am to vl100butch
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i swear that Josef Goebbels had a son who survived the furherbunker and is working there
Love the Goebbels reference but might be over a few ppls heads in here lol
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:59 am to mule74
They actually claim 13 now.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:59 am to DennyChimes10
let's see how many come back with arguments
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:00 am to SL Tiger
quote::bwahaha: :bwahaha: :bwahaha: :bwahaha: :bwahaha: :bwahaha: :bwahaha: :bwahaha:
Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it
Look in the Football Thesaurus......
Quick, what is a synonym for Alabama Football........go.
According to them, they are the Football Messiah.
This post was edited on 11/30/11 at 11:03 am
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