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Biggest strategic mistake of the game

Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Big L
Houston
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:25 pm
Haven't seen this play get called out, but I really think the pass play on 3rd and 15 in overtime was the worst call of the night. You're already staring at 47 yards and your kicker is struggling...you have to get about 5 yards to make the kick more manageable. TR could have gotten those yards as you know LSU would be off the line to prevent the big play or first down conversion. The WORST thing that could happen was a sack and being backed up even further. So that was the biggest mistake IMO, what say you?
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:26 pm to
I wasn't against the playcall, but like McElroy, A.J. often will take a sack without trying to get rid of it.
Posted by GregYoureMyBoyBlue
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:27 pm to
Letting Maze go out for the punt return. Had no business going out there with that injury
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
20504 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:27 pm to
Definitely one of the biggest mistakes. I still think deciding to play for overtime when our kicking game is that questionable is a major head scratcher. I also think trying that many long field goals was a mistake. I think we should have punted more and played field position, but I'm not the coach. The game is over anyway. Congrats to you guys on a great game.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:29 pm to
I don't think Chris Jones would have done any better on the play. Assuming it hits the wire in that scenario too. Maze is an experienced punt returner and the ball changing trajectory really messed with him. I can't imagine a true freshman handling it any better, healthy or not.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:29 pm to
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Haven't seen this play get called out, but I really think the pass play on 3rd and 15 in overtime was the worst call of the night. You're already staring at 47 yards and your kicker is struggling...you have to get about 5 yards to make the kick more manageable. TR could have gotten those yards as you know LSU would be off the line to prevent the big play or first down conversion. The WORST thing that could happen was a sack and being backed up even further. So that was the biggest mistake IMO, what say you?


I don't know about "the worst", but it was one of many strategic mistakes.
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:29 pm to
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Letting Maze go out for the punt return. Had no business going out there with that injury


Any of you guys heard anything about the ball hitting the cable cam? An AU friend of mine said he had heard that Maze claimed the ball hit the cable cam and messed up his judgment. I don't see how that's possible, but I was just wondering if anyone had heard this.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:30 pm to
Throwing the pass with a WR that got intercepted...
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:32 pm to
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Any of you guys heard anything about the ball hitting the cable cam? An AU friend of mine said he had heard that Maze claimed the ball hit the cable cam and messed up his judgment. I don't see how that's possible, but I was just wondering if anyone had heard this.


The camera operator shot that down.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:34 pm to
People are touting that play as the best of the year, if the guy off the edge is picked up. It made Maze rush the pass. Another inch and Reid's reaction doesn't matter. A fraction of a second late on the reaction, and Williams has the ball. However, that's football. I can't second guess that call.
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:34 pm to
That whole series was crazy. I thought the shuttle pass was a good idea but AJ made a strange throw on it.

I see your point on the pass play but I'm not sure 5 more yards would have made a difference. No way he should take a sack either.
Posted by Red Drum
Coast
Member since Sep 2007
1788 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:35 pm to
so it was a 70 yard punt and it hit the wire? Jesus, we may have witnessed a miracle. Did he misjudge it short or long. If it went over his head "after hitting the wire" then he is full of shite. I don't remember if it went over his head or not.
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
20504 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:35 pm to
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The camera operator shot that down.


It seemed odd to think the cable would interfere with the ball, considering it went farther back than Maze was standing. Thanks.
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
20504 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:37 pm to
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so it was a 70 yard punt and it hit the wire? Jesus, we may have witnessed a miracle. Did he misjudge it short or long. If it went over his head "after hitting the wire" then he is full of shite. I don't remember if it went over his head or not.


Yeah, it went over his head. It sounded like BS to me too, but I didn't know if he had actually said that, or if that was just a rumor.
Posted by Big L
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
5406 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:38 pm to
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I also think trying that many long field goals was a mistake. I think we should have punted more and played field position, but I'm not the coach


I agree. Bama's D is awesome and there was not much chance LSU would be able to string together enough first downs to traverse the entire field and score. Collectively, these were some major blunders, especially the 52 yarder after they had already missed 2 shorter ones and you're bringing in the short-range kicker ?
Posted by DArbonneDuke
D'Arbonne, LA
Member since Nov 2005
1462 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:39 pm to
Ball didn't hit the wire. Looked to me like when Maze turned to go back for the ball his ankle gave and he had no chance at it.
Posted by 4nmylifetime
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:41 pm to
The first down reverse call to Maze at around the LSU 30 where he bumped TR and stumbled to a 6 yrd loss making it 2 and 16 and the shot at the endzone the frist play after the Barron int just baffled me. Yeah I know you are supposed to go for it right after the big turnover but not againts that D in that critical of a situation. Every one knew it was coming, including the double coverage.
Posted by Big L
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
5406 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:45 pm to
Biggest strategic mistake for LSU was sending Ware between the tackles on 3rd down with 8 seconds to go in the half. Time could have expired, but there was almost no chance he will score there. I still can't believe they didn't run the option once on that series of downs.
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
20504 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:46 pm to
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The first down reverse call to Maze at around the LSU 30 where he bumped TR and stumbled to a 6 yrd loss making it 2 and 16 and the shot at the endzone the frist play after the Barron int just baffled me.


I agree on the timing. In a game like that, going for the kill shot right after a turnover is kind of obvious. I have to say though, the reverse to Maze might have worked, had he not ran into his own man. I haven't seen the replay of the game yet, but watching it live, it looked like there may have been something there, had he not fell down.
Posted by DArbonneDuke
D'Arbonne, LA
Member since Nov 2005
1462 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:46 pm to
This game could have gone either way, no doubt. If LSU had lost, there were plenty of mistakes that could have been blamed. Not getting in the end zone and taking a field goal at end of first half, Randle mistiming his leap in the end zone and ball going off his fingertips, not covering TR coming out of the backfield for numerous passes, etc.
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