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SEC QBs: A question of quality
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:13 pm
Been thinking about something a talking head on one of the talk shows said earlier this week. Don't remember who it was or which ESPN show it was, but basically he said that the Bama and LSU defensive stats are skewed because there are no good QBs in the SEC and (arse beating aside) he even used Geno Smith's success against LSU to prove his point.
He wanted to see how they (Bama/LSU) fared against an Elite QB, such as Landry Jones, Luck, Wilson or Weeden and indicated he didn't think they would do well.
SEC QBs rarely have the gaudy stats as some in other leagues do. But personally, I think it has more to do with style and the defenses they have to face in the SEC. Even the lower teir teams in the SEC play better defense than most teams the 'Elite' QBs face.
Am I right, wrong? Or do SEC QBs generally suck? Would your QB(s) be a successful stat machine in another conference? I'm a Homer for sure, but I think AJ could put up mad stats in another league.
Just curious.
He wanted to see how they (Bama/LSU) fared against an Elite QB, such as Landry Jones, Luck, Wilson or Weeden and indicated he didn't think they would do well.
SEC QBs rarely have the gaudy stats as some in other leagues do. But personally, I think it has more to do with style and the defenses they have to face in the SEC. Even the lower teir teams in the SEC play better defense than most teams the 'Elite' QBs face.
Am I right, wrong? Or do SEC QBs generally suck? Would your QB(s) be a successful stat machine in another conference? I'm a Homer for sure, but I think AJ could put up mad stats in another league.
Just curious.
This post was edited on 10/21/11 at 12:15 pm
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Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:16 pm to Broken Coyote
Matt Mauck, Matt Flynn, McElroy, Jay Barker, Tee Martin. Who needs a 300 yard a game passer when you play smart and play defense. Never bothers me that Bama doesn't have a Landry Jones.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:16 pm to Broken Coyote
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Would your QB(s) be a successful stat machine in another conference?
Braysus is already a stat machine.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:17 pm to Broken Coyote
ours dont 
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:17 pm to Broken Coyote
ESPN 
Trying to keep the illusion that other conferences and teams can compete with the SEC.
Trying to keep the illusion that other conferences and teams can compete with the SEC.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:18 pm to Broken Coyote
I think the QBs and teams outside of a select few just suck lots of smelly arse this year.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:18 pm to Broken Coyote
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but I think AJ could put up mad stats in another league.
stats? stats. STATS!
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:19 pm to Damn Good Dawg
shutup
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:19 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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stats? stats. STATS!
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Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:19 pm to Damn Good Dawg
they said the same thing in '03 and Jason White couldn't do jack shite against LSU.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:20 pm to Broken Coyote
Our best QBs have been game managers, not world-beaters. Playing QB in the SEC usually means you're also playing alongside the best defenses in the country, so there's no need to have a 300+ yard passer. The SEC is the only conference where there is just as much talent on D as there is on O.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:20 pm to Broken Coyote
Could we argue Big12 heisman-like qbs numbers are inflated because they dont play defense?
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:20 pm to Broken Coyote
Wilson, Bray, Murray, McCarron, and Lee are pretty good. Russell for MSU showed some potential last week.
That's dumb.
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He wanted to see how they (Bama/LSU) fared against an Elite QB, such as Landry Jones, Luck, Wilson or Weeden and indicated he didn't think they would do well.
That's dumb.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:21 pm to Tigerbait46
But Sam Bradford got them stats. But McElroy got a ring throwing for like 50 yards in the NCG. That's why Skip Bayless is a moron.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:21 pm to 3rdandlong83
inb4coltwasinjured
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:22 pm to Broken Coyote
One could argue that those Non-SEC QBs haven't faced an elite SEC defense
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:23 pm to ThePoo
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Could we argue Big12 heisman-like qbs numbers are inflated because they dont play defense?
I would argue that. College football is on pace to break all kinds of offensive records this year. I think that says more about the defenses than then ofenses.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:23 pm to ACL11190
meh, the 2 drives he was in they kicked field goals.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:24 pm to dedfella
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One could argue that those Non-SEC QBs haven't faced an elite SEC defense
That's exactly right, and that's the arguement they SHOULD be making.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:24 pm to Broken Coyote
I think it also has a lot to do with our emphasis on running the ball. Even our spread attacks have been overwhelmingly run-first.
Auburn and Florida's spreads were much more like WV under RichRod than like Texas Tech or Hawaii. Our more-under-the-center-teams obviously have big linemen that specialize in driving DL's off the line.
Auburn and Florida's spreads were much more like WV under RichRod than like Texas Tech or Hawaii. Our more-under-the-center-teams obviously have big linemen that specialize in driving DL's off the line.
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