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Auburn IS NOT Corrupt
Posted on 11/18/10 at 9:46 am
Posted on 11/18/10 at 9:46 am
Let's make this clear for the Auburn posters on this board. I have a lot of Auburn friends and they are good people. My wife is getting a master's degree from Auburn right now. Auburn itself IS NOT corrupt. I've been to a couple of LSU-Auburn games there and have been treated great. The fans, by and large (every groups has its idiots), do not deserve what is happening to them here.
Bobby Lowder is corrupt.
Milton MacGregor is corrupt.
Pat Dye is corrupt.
Jimmy Rane is corrupt.
Auburn's problem is that a handful of very powerful, very corrupt people have wrested control of the university and use it for themselves. Much of this has gone on behind closed doors or has only surfaced through innuendo and rumor. It is all very hard to believe.
For the average Auburn fan, what is happening is a shame. The university and fanbase are just like the rest of us, for the most part, despite what Bama fans say.
That said, if all this is true, they will all pay for the crimes of a few. Tragic.
Bobby Lowder is corrupt.
Milton MacGregor is corrupt.
Pat Dye is corrupt.
Jimmy Rane is corrupt.
Auburn's problem is that a handful of very powerful, very corrupt people have wrested control of the university and use it for themselves. Much of this has gone on behind closed doors or has only surfaced through innuendo and rumor. It is all very hard to believe.
For the average Auburn fan, what is happening is a shame. The university and fanbase are just like the rest of us, for the most part, despite what Bama fans say.
That said, if all this is true, they will all pay for the crimes of a few. Tragic.
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Posted on 11/18/10 at 9:47 am to AlaTiger
This could have been written word for word about Alabama in the mid 90s.
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Posted on 11/18/10 at 9:48 am to AlaTiger
So, you are saying that Auburn is corrupt ?
Posted on 11/18/10 at 9:49 am to AlaTiger
AlaTiger,
you're the smartest poster on this boardt.
Lowder is a billionaire, its not easy to take down a fat cat who can hire 10 of the best attorneys.
you're the smartest poster on this boardt.
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Auburn's problem is that a handful of very powerful, very corrupt people have wrested control of the university and use it for themselves. Much of this has gone on behind closed doors or has only surfaced through innuendo and rumor. It is all very hard to believe.
Lowder is a billionaire, its not easy to take down a fat cat who can hire 10 of the best attorneys.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 9:49 am to Lsupimp
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So, you are saying that Auburn is corrupt ?
Do priests like little boys?
Posted on 11/18/10 at 9:49 am to AlaTiger
So Auburn is corrupt but you are partial to the Auburn people you know. Ok.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 9:52 am to Laryngitis
The institution is ultimately responsible for the actions of its members.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 9:53 am to AlaTiger
I think the main thing driving Auburn corruption over the last quarter century is just the deep-seated inferiority complex they have with regards to Alabama. You see this with individuals as well. Siblings trying to outdo one another and the drama that results from that. This is sibling rivalry writ large. Little brother trying to keep up with big brother. It makes people, families, corporations and yes, universities do crazy things.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 9:53 am to AlaTiger
Agreed. That's why I feel so bad for their fans.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 9:55 am to Lsupimp
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So, you are saying that Auburn is corrupt ?
If you are saying that Auburn = a handful of powerful and corrupt boosters, then yes, I guess Auburn is corrupt.
But, Auburn is so much more than that. Students, alumni, overall good people who love college football and their university. Auburn fans (by and large) are generally humble and realistic. They live in Bama's shadow day in and day out and they are Auburn fans because they choose to be, not because they are bandwagoners. Yeah, they have a bit of a chip on their shoulder, but if you saw the abuse that they got from the majority in Alabama who are Tide fans, you would understand it a bit more. Being an LSU fan, I am able to objectively observe the fanbases and can say that I kind of feel bad for Auburn fans in Alabama. LSU fans in Louisiana don't get it. It is an entirely different dynamic.
There is a lot of Auburn "hating" going on right now. If we have really read Tuna's epic thread, we know that this isn't the Auburn community. It is a handful of people who have made Auburn their plaything and are destroying the university. That's a shame, no matter how you look at it, all football rivalries aside.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 9:57 am to AlaTiger
quote:I don't think anyone is claiming these people are corrupt.
Students, alumni, overall good people who love college football and their university
Posted on 11/18/10 at 9:58 am to AlaTiger
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If you are saying that Auburn = a handful of powerful and corrupt boosters, then yes, I guess Auburn is corrupt.
It's mor ethan just boosters..........We have Coaches, Players, AD staffers.......this is a corrupt enterprise (RICO)
Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:01 am to sec13rowBBseat28
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I don't think anyone is claiming these people are corrupt
...at least not in connection with CamGate.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:01 am to sec13rowBBseat28
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I don't think anyone is claiming these people are corrupt.
Yeah, but these people identify with Auburn and when you call Auburn corrupt, they take it personally. I think that enough information is out that we can now begin to understand better what is happening here and give the Auburn fans a break.
If this were happening at LSU, we'd want the same.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:02 am to AlaTiger
quote:great post, and having lived in alabama myself for the last several years, i know exactly what you mean.
But, Auburn is so much more than that. Students, alumni, overall good people who love college football and their university. Auburn fans (by and large) are generally humble and realistic. They live in Bama's shadow day in and day out and they are Auburn fans because they choose to be, not because they are bandwagoners. Yeah, they have a bit of a chip on their shoulder, but if you saw the abuse that they got from the majority in Alabama who are Tide fans, you would understand it a bit more. Being an LSU fan, I am able to objectively observe the fanbases and can say that I kind of feel bad for Auburn fans in Alabama. LSU fans in Louisiana don't get it. It is an entirely different dynamic.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:03 am to AuburnAlum
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Lowder is a billionaire, its not easy to take down a fat cat who can hire 10 of the best attorneys.
No he isn't and never has been.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:04 am to Lsupimp
quote:Nah, just the people who represent it
So, you are saying that Auburn is corrupt ?
Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:05 am to AlaTiger
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My wife is getting a master's degree from Auburn right now.
She might wanna consider transferring. That degree might not be worth the paper it's written on in a few years.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:05 am to AlaTiger
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Bobby Lowder is corrupt.
Milton MacGregor is corrupt.
Pat Dye is corrupt.
Jimmy Rane is corrupt.
Lowder - BoT member
Rane - BoT member
Dye - former coach/AD embraced by current staff
75% of that list has or had decision making abilities regarding Auburn athletics. You don't get more corrupt as an institution than that.
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