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I don't think Cam is ineligible (yet) based on the NCAA rule
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:30 am
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:30 am
My understanding is that the rule reads as follows:
"the solicitation of cash or benefits by a prospective student-athlete or another individual on his or her behalf is not allowed under NCAA rules"
We all know that Cam's dad asked MSU for money in exchange for his son's signature. According to Cecil, though, his son didn't know anything about it. Let's also assume that the money was going to go to Cecil's church and that Cam would not have directly benefitted.
If that is the case, how can it be said that Cecil solicited cash "on behalf of" his son, which the rule requires?
If it's that easy to have someone ruled ineligible, I am going to call some rich guy in Mississippi and demand money in exchange for Masoli's continued commitment to the team.
According to the SECr lawyers, Masoli would then be ineligible. Right?
"the solicitation of cash or benefits by a prospective student-athlete or another individual on his or her behalf is not allowed under NCAA rules"
We all know that Cam's dad asked MSU for money in exchange for his son's signature. According to Cecil, though, his son didn't know anything about it. Let's also assume that the money was going to go to Cecil's church and that Cam would not have directly benefitted.
If that is the case, how can it be said that Cecil solicited cash "on behalf of" his son, which the rule requires?
If it's that easy to have someone ruled ineligible, I am going to call some rich guy in Mississippi and demand money in exchange for Masoli's continued commitment to the team.
According to the SECr lawyers, Masoli would then be ineligible. Right?
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Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:32 am to Prodigal Tiger
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According to Cecil
quit reading here. All he has done is lie.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:33 am to I Love Bama
agreed bama
you cant trust either one of those guys
you cant trust either one of those guys
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:33 am to I Love Bama
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quit reading here. All he has done is lie.
There's no doubt. And I am sure that Auburn did pay them and that Cam was in on it.
But my point is that everyone on here is saying that, based on what we know with MSU, Cam is ineligible and it's a done deal. I just don't see it that way.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:34 am to Prodigal Tiger
This is how it's done per a friend of mine that played pro ball. But cam made the mistake of saying dad made decision.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:34 am to Prodigal Tiger
I think that there is a little bit more of a relationship between Cam and his dad than there is between you and Masoli. Moreover, Cam surrendered his choice of college to his dad. You don't need absolute proof, you can make some conclusions from the evidence. The conclusion here would be that Cam and his dad were in cahoots.
Otherwise, all fathers everywhere would have to say is that the money was for them and not thier son and the payoffs could be out in the open. Let the bidding begin.
Otherwise, all fathers everywhere would have to say is that the money was for them and not thier son and the payoffs could be out in the open. Let the bidding begin.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:35 am to Prodigal Tiger
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According to the SECr lawyers, Masoli would then be ineligible. Right?
You aren't Masoli's dad
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:35 am to davidlsu
obviously they lie and cant be trusted but the OP is interesting. and i doubt you took the time to make a remark on a post without reading the rest of it...........its not long.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:36 am to Prodigal Tiger
Doesn't matter. SEC rules make Cam ineligible. Conference rules say if the athlete or anyone in his family seek "benefits" from a member school the athlete is ineligible at all institutions. Slive saying the SEC can't rule Cam ineligible is BS.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:36 am to ljhog
Yeah. This is gonna end well....... 
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:37 am to ljhog
i wanna know why they are dragging out his eligibility. dont they have what they need to sit his arse down???
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:39 am to ljhog
Slive just wants all this to go away
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:39 am to Prodigal Tiger
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If it's that easy to have someone ruled ineligible, I am going to call some rich guy in Mississippi and demand money in exchange for Masoli's continued commitment to the team.
If you are Masoli's biological Father- then yes, it is that easy
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:39 am to ReauxlTide222
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dont they have what they need to sit his arse down???
Hell, I do, and I am just some schmuck sitting at a computer.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:40 am to TheDoc
hes a damn crook if he'd try to cover something like this up
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:40 am to Joe
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You aren't Masoli's dad
Got it.
But the rule doesn't differentiate, does it?
It just that no one can solicit money on an athlete's behalf. My point is that everyone is making it seem like this is cut-and-dried and Cam is ineligible. I'm just pointing out that if you applied the SECr's interpretation of the rule you could get to some pretty absurd results.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:41 am to Prodigal Tiger
Someone from another thread hinted that Rogers asked for the money.
Newton would still be ineligible in this case.
Newton would still be ineligible in this case.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:41 am to Prodigal Tiger
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We all know that Cam's dad asked MSU for money in exchange for his son's signature. According to Cecil, though, his son didn't know anything about it.
According to the NCAA, your immediate family is part of the student athlete. Thus, it doesn't matter whether Cam knew or not, he's ineligible if Cecil asked for benefits.
It's why Albert Means was ruled eligible. His high school football coach seeking $ from Bama wasn't in his immediate family and Means didn't know.
This post was edited on 11/18/10 at 8:44 am
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:43 am to Prodigal Tiger
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Prodigal Tiger
dude, please quit bringing up logic and facts to this argument.... we are getting the death penalty and will be kicked out of the SEC and will be brought before SACS, and probably lose our accreditation.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 8:45 am to GeauxTigersLee
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According to the NCAA, your immediate family is part of the student athlete.
Where are you getting that from? I think you are making it up.
What about those estranged dads that show up whenever the athlete hits it big? Can they get their son, whom they haven't spoken to in years, declared ineligible when they go around with their hand out?
What about an uncle? Can he get a kid declared ineligible?
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