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fumbles on 4th down.
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:32 pm
ARTICLE 2. a. When a backward pass or fumble is caught or recovered by
any inbounds player, the ball continues in play (A.R. 7-2-2-I and II, A.R.
2-23-1-I).
Exceptions:
RULE 7-2 / SNAPPING AND PASSING THE BALL FR-101
1. Rule 8-3-2-d-5 (Team A fumble on the try).
2. On fourth down before a change of team possession, when a Team
A fumble is caught or recovered by a Team A player other than the
fumbler, the ball is dead.
If the catch or recovery is beyond the spot
of the fumble, the ball is returned to the spot of the fumble.
If the catch or recovery is behind the spot of the fumble, the ball remains
at the spot of the catch or recovery.
Read the first sentence after exception 2 (bolded)
any inbounds player, the ball continues in play (A.R. 7-2-2-I and II, A.R.
2-23-1-I).
Exceptions:
RULE 7-2 / SNAPPING AND PASSING THE BALL FR-101
1. Rule 8-3-2-d-5 (Team A fumble on the try).
2. On fourth down before a change of team possession, when a Team
A fumble is caught or recovered by a Team A player other than the
fumbler, the ball is dead.
If the catch or recovery is beyond the spot
of the fumble, the ball is returned to the spot of the fumble.
If the catch or recovery is behind the spot of the fumble, the ball remains
at the spot of the catch or recovery.
Read the first sentence after exception 2 (bolded)
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Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:33 pm to joshnorris14
SEE! The officials are doing everything they can to assure LSU keeps winning!
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:33 pm to joshnorris14
Payback for the bogus pass interference earlier in the game.
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:33 pm to joshnorris14
sheeit.
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:34 pm to ACL11190
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:35 pm to joshnorris14
RULE 3
Ball Declared Dead
ARTICLE 3. A live ball becomes dead and an official shall sound his whistle
or declare it dead:
a. When it goes out of bounds other than a kick that scores a field goal after
touching the uprights or crossbar, when a ball carrier is out of bounds,
or when a ball carrier is so held that his forward progress is stopped.
When in question, the ball is dead (A.R. 4-2-1-II).
b. When any part of the ball carrier’s body, except his hand or foot, touches
the ground or when the ball carrier is tackled or otherwise falls and loses
possession of the ball as he contacts the ground with any part of his
body, except his hand or foot [Exception: The ball remains alive when
an offensive player has simulated a kick or is in position to kick the ball
held for a place kick by a teammate. The ball may be kicked, passed or
advanced by rule] (A.R. 4-1-3-I).
c. When a touchdown, touchback, safety, field goal or successful try
occurs; or when an unsuccessful field-goal attempt that has crossed the
neutral zone and is then untouched by Team B, lands in Team B’s end
zone or out of bounds (A.R. 6-3-9-I).
d. When, during a try, a dead-ball rule applies (Rule 8-3-2-d-5).
e. When a player of the kicking team catches or recovers any free kick or
a scrimmage kick that has crossed the neutral zone (A.R. 4-1-3-II).
f. When a free kick, scrimmage kick or any other loose ball comes to rest
and no player attempts to secure it.
g. When a scrimmage kick beyond the neutral zone or a free kick is caught
or recovered by any player after a valid or invalid fair-catch signal; or
when an invalid fair-catch signal is made after a catch or recovery by
Team B (Rules 2-7-1, 2-7-2 and 2-7-3).
h. When a return kick or scrimmage kick beyond the neutral zone is
made.
i. When a forward pass strikes the ground.
j. When, before a change of team possession on fourth down or a try, a
Team A fumble is caught or recovered by a Team A player other than the
fumbler (Rules 7-2-2-a and -b and 8-3-2-d-5).
Ball Declared Dead
ARTICLE 3. A live ball becomes dead and an official shall sound his whistle
or declare it dead:
a. When it goes out of bounds other than a kick that scores a field goal after
touching the uprights or crossbar, when a ball carrier is out of bounds,
or when a ball carrier is so held that his forward progress is stopped.
When in question, the ball is dead (A.R. 4-2-1-II).
b. When any part of the ball carrier’s body, except his hand or foot, touches
the ground or when the ball carrier is tackled or otherwise falls and loses
possession of the ball as he contacts the ground with any part of his
body, except his hand or foot [Exception: The ball remains alive when
an offensive player has simulated a kick or is in position to kick the ball
held for a place kick by a teammate. The ball may be kicked, passed or
advanced by rule] (A.R. 4-1-3-I).
c. When a touchdown, touchback, safety, field goal or successful try
occurs; or when an unsuccessful field-goal attempt that has crossed the
neutral zone and is then untouched by Team B, lands in Team B’s end
zone or out of bounds (A.R. 6-3-9-I).
d. When, during a try, a dead-ball rule applies (Rule 8-3-2-d-5).
e. When a player of the kicking team catches or recovers any free kick or
a scrimmage kick that has crossed the neutral zone (A.R. 4-1-3-II).
f. When a free kick, scrimmage kick or any other loose ball comes to rest
and no player attempts to secure it.
g. When a scrimmage kick beyond the neutral zone or a free kick is caught
or recovered by any player after a valid or invalid fair-catch signal; or
when an invalid fair-catch signal is made after a catch or recovery by
Team B (Rules 2-7-1, 2-7-2 and 2-7-3).
h. When a return kick or scrimmage kick beyond the neutral zone is
made.
i. When a forward pass strikes the ground.
j. When, before a change of team possession on fourth down or a try, a
Team A fumble is caught or recovered by a Team A player other than the
fumbler (Rules 7-2-2-a and -b and 8-3-2-d-5).
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:35 pm to joshnorris14
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:35 pm to joshnorris14
cry me a river
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:36 pm to joshnorris14
wasnt' a fumble. it was a skip-pass. look it up, Art. 30(b)(6).
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:37 pm to joshnorris14
seems that the exceptions are only for a fumble, not a backwards pass..
did they give the holder credit for a fumble?
did they give the holder credit for a fumble?
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:37 pm to joshnorris14
A pass interference call on a pass that landed 10 yards out of bounds gave you 4 points.
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:37 pm to joshnorris14
Apparently no one on the Florida sideline knew that rule since they had plenty of time to bring it up during the very long review. Is there something else that is missing?
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:38 pm to tigerinridgeland
Wow. That's messed up.
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:42 pm to Xenophon
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not a backwards pass..
A backwards pass that hits the ground is a fumble, no?
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:42 pm to audodger
damn if true 
doesn't sound right though, a muffed snap on 4th down can be picked up and ran with..
i have never ever seen this called fwiw. has anyone?
doesn't sound right though, a muffed snap on 4th down can be picked up and ran with.. i have never ever seen this called fwiw. has anyone?
This post was edited on 10/9/10 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:42 pm to audodger
who fumbled?
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:42 pm to Xenophon
quote:
eems that the exceptions are only for a fumble, not a backwards pass
why is this so hard to understand? Wasn't a fumble. Much lack GMAC's pass was ruled incomplete in the fourth quarter because he was attempting a pass.
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:42 pm to joshnorris14
It wasn't a "pass" or a "fumble"
It was a toss/lateral....as in a toss sweep
It was a running play
Go find some other rule/exception to help you feel like you got robbed
You're the first butthurt UF fan I've seen....everyone else has owned up to losing and congratulated us on a hard fought victory
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GTFO
It was a toss/lateral....as in a toss sweep
It was a running play
Go find some other rule/exception to help you feel like you got robbed
You're the first butthurt UF fan I've seen....everyone else has owned up to losing and congratulated us on a hard fought victory
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GTFO
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:42 pm to NETigerfan
quote:
who fumbled?
The holder.
Posted on 10/9/10 at 11:43 pm to inelishaitrust
quote:
A backwards pass that hits the ground is a fumble, no?
Correct. No.
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