fumbles on 4th down. | SECRant.com
Posted byMessage
joshnorris14
Florida Fan
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
21177 posts

fumbles on 4th down.


ARTICLE 2. a. When a backward pass or fumble is caught or recovered by
any inbounds player, the ball continues in play (A.R. 7-2-2-I and II, A.R.
2-23-1-I).

Exceptions:

RULE 7-2 / SNAPPING AND PASSING THE BALL FR-101
1. Rule 8-3-2-d-5 (Team A fumble on the try).
2. On fourth down before a change of team possession, when a Team
A fumble is caught or recovered by a Team A player other than the
fumbler, the ball is dead.

If the catch or recovery is beyond the spot
of the fumble, the ball is returned to the spot of the fumble.

If the catch or recovery is behind the spot of the fumble, the ball remains
at the spot of the catch or recovery.
Read the first sentence after exception 2 (bolded)







Back to top
Share:
ACL11190
Alabama Fan
not alabama fan
Member since Dec 2007
27530 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.


SEE! The officials are doing everything they can to assure LSU keeps winning!





Back to top
Esarhaddon
Memphis Fan
Lafayette, LA
Member since Aug 2006
19035 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.


Payback for the bogus pass interference earlier in the game.





Back to top
inelishaitrust
Ole Miss Fan
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
23499 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.


sheeit.





Back to top
lsusteve1
LSU Fan
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2004
17433 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.








Back to top
joshnorris14
Florida Fan
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
21177 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.


RULE 3
Ball Declared Dead
ARTICLE 3. A live ball becomes dead and an official shall sound his whistle
or declare it dead:
a. When it goes out of bounds other than a kick that scores a field goal after
touching the uprights or crossbar, when a ball carrier is out of bounds,
or when a ball carrier is so held that his forward progress is stopped.
When in question, the ball is dead (A.R. 4-2-1-II).
b. When any part of the ball carrier’s body, except his hand or foot, touches
the ground or when the ball carrier is tackled or otherwise falls and loses
possession of the ball as he contacts the ground with any part of his
body, except his hand or foot [Exception: The ball remains alive when
an offensive player has simulated a kick or is in position to kick the ball
held for a place kick by a teammate. The ball may be kicked, passed or
advanced by rule] (A.R. 4-1-3-I).
c. When a touchdown, touchback, safety, field goal or successful try
occurs; or when an unsuccessful field-goal attempt that has crossed the
neutral zone and is then untouched by Team B, lands in Team B’s end
zone or out of bounds (A.R. 6-3-9-I).
d. When, during a try, a dead-ball rule applies (Rule 8-3-2-d-5).
e. When a player of the kicking team catches or recovers any free kick or
a scrimmage kick that has crossed the neutral zone (A.R. 4-1-3-II).
f. When a free kick, scrimmage kick or any other loose ball comes to rest
and no player attempts to secure it.
g. When a scrimmage kick beyond the neutral zone or a free kick is caught
or recovered by any player after a valid or invalid fair-catch signal; or
when an invalid fair-catch signal is made after a catch or recovery by
Team B (Rules 2-7-1, 2-7-2 and 2-7-3).
h. When a return kick or scrimmage kick beyond the neutral zone is
made.
i. When a forward pass strikes the ground.
j. When, before a change of team possession on fourth down or a try, a
Team A fumble is caught or recovered by a Team A player other than the
fumbler
(Rules 7-2-2-a and -b and 8-3-2-d-5).






Back to top
LSUTigerfaninHtown
New Orleans Saints Fan
President of the OT as of 5/26/11
Member since Nov 2008
21007 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.








Back to top
NorthshoreTiger76
LSU Fan
Madisonville LA
Member since May 2009
34347 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.


cry me a river





Back to top
Coonass
New Orleans Saints Fan
Buckhead
Member since Sep 2005
1694 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.


wasnt' a fumble. it was a skip-pass. look it up, Art. 30(b)(6).





Back to top
Xenophon
LA-Monroe Fan
Aspen
Member since Feb 2006
33076 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.


seems that the exceptions are only for a fumble, not a backwards pass..

did they give the holder credit for a fumble?






Back to top
geauxtigahs87
LSU Fan
Vilseck, Germany
Member since Dec 2008
16477 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.


A pass interference call on a pass that landed 10 yards out of bounds gave you 4 points.






Back to top
tigerinridgeland
LSU Fan
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
6037 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.


Apparently no one on the Florida sideline knew that rule since they had plenty of time to bring it up during the very long review. Is there something else that is missing?





Back to top
audodger
Auburn Fan
Birmingham, AL
Member since Jun 2010
6814 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.


Wow. That's messed up.





Back to top
inelishaitrust
Ole Miss Fan
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
23499 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.


quote:

not a backwards pass..


A backwards pass that hits the ground is a fumble, no?






Back to top
bmy
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2007
22224 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.


damn if true doesn't sound right though, a muffed snap on 4th down can be picked up and ran with..

i have never ever seen this called fwiw. has anyone?



This post was edited on 10/9 at 11:42 pm


Back to top
NETigerfan
LSU Fan
In Big Red Country
Member since Nov 2008
70 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.


who fumbled?





Back to top
DEG
LSU Fan
halfway between sober and reality
Member since Jul 2009
4852 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.


quote:

eems that the exceptions are only for a fumble, not a backwards pass


why is this so hard to understand? Wasn't a fumble. Much lack GMAC's pass was ruled incomplete in the fourth quarter because he was attempting a pass.






Back to top
dkreller
LSU Fan
Offshore
Member since Jan 2009
17605 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.


It wasn't a "pass" or a "fumble"

It was a toss/lateral....as in a toss sweep

It was a running play


Go find some other rule/exception to help you feel like you got robbed

You're the first butthurt UF fan I've seen....everyone else has owned up to losing and congratulated us on a hard fought victory



&

GTFO






Back to top
inelishaitrust
Ole Miss Fan
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
23499 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.


quote:

who fumbled?


The holder.






Back to top
DEG
LSU Fan
halfway between sober and reality
Member since Jul 2009
4852 posts

re: fumbles on 4th down.


quote:

A backwards pass that hits the ground is a fumble, no?


Correct. No.






Back to top


Back to top