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re: tOfficial Flag Vote Thread

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Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/24/15 at 10:23 pm to
Rebels is next, followed by OM, then Red, Blue & Grey...

Hope I'm wrong about the above...
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 10:24 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68439 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 10:24 pm to
I don't think our administration is THAT stupid. Getting rid of the flags and Colonel Reb is one thing. Take away those two you're taking away something that people identify themselves with.
Posted by Gcockboi
Rock Hill
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/24/15 at 10:24 pm to
Mannnn, Sherman looks like a drunk Psychopath.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/24/15 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

Robert E. Lee didn't fight for the south because he believed in slavery. He did it because he didn't want to attack his home state.


This is a popular myth. However, it is proven false by the letters he wrote discussing his views on slavery.

LINK

This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 10:42 pm
Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
Member since Sep 2014
8161 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 10:40 pm to
Cite a reliable, published or manuscript location. Internet letter who doesn't even say who written to is questionable.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 10:57 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68439 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 10:44 pm to
Didn't say he was against slavery. Just said that wasn't his main reason for fighting for the confederacy.
Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
Member since Sep 2014
8161 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 10:53 pm to
Lee inherited slaves, whom he freed while settling his father in laws estate.
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
Swagosphere
Member since Jan 2014
9364 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 10:54 pm to
That's my great-great-grandaddy (true story) so back the frick off, brah! Nobody talks about grandpappy rob like that.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/24/15 at 10:59 pm to
Then you should read "Reading the Man: A Portrait of Robert E. Lee Through His Private Letters". Here is a quick synopsis via an interview on US News with the Historian:

LINK

And Sancho read up with what he did with his wife's inherited slaves.
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
10745 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 11:00 pm to
The soldiers personal cause doesn't override the fact that they were fighting for a bigger cause. My ancestors fought for the Confederacy too at Corinth and Vicksburg, we just don't sit around and celebrate it.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17443 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

My ancestors fought for the Confederacy too at Corinth and Vicksburg, we just don't sit around and celebrate it.


I imagine that would be a tad weird if y'all did sit around and celebrate it Quick.
Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
Member since Sep 2014
8161 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 11:04 pm to
I have through primary sources, not the secondary source you cite.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17443 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 11:11 pm to
Primary as compared to secondary....can I ask what you are talking about? The letter I initially referenced is his own letter to his wife....you can not get anymore primary than the man's own words. Unless you have some supernatural ability to commune with Balls Great Gran Pappy Rob, I don't see how your source is more reliable than a noted historians compilation of his personal letters?
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 11:12 pm
Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
Member since Sep 2014
8161 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 11:16 pm to
Where is said letter located? To whom was it written?

Or plural as the case may be.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68439 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

The soldiers personal cause doesn't override the fact that they were fighting for a bigger cause.

Sure it does.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17443 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

Where is said letter located? To whom was it written?


"For her newly published biography, Reading the Man: A Portrait of Robert E. Lee Through His Private Letters, historian Elizabeth Brown Pryor draws on a cache of previously unknown Lee family papers, discovered in 2002 in two sturdy wooden trunks that Lee's daughter stored in a Virginia bank about a century ago. Quoting from these and other overlooked letters, Pryor presents a multifaceted man, more accessible and at the same time more puzzling than ever. He was an irrepressible flirt, and, contrary to popular belief, Lee not only believed in slavery; he was capable of treating his own slaves cruelly."
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
Swagosphere
Member since Jan 2014
9364 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 11:32 pm to
Yeah well my great-great-grandaddy could beat up your great-great-grandaddy.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 12:11 am to
This flick went from dramatic to comedic real quick.
Posted by rebelcommodore
Vienna
Member since Jun 2014
3728 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 12:58 am to
But we can all agree we don't want a magnolia to look like broccoli, right?
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 6:36 am to
Yes
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