So... who do you want

I'm more worried about sanctions coming and giving players a right to transfer immediately without losing a year..I'll take Fleck as well

Ya'll can pretend we ain't getting hammered, but the players know better. Freeze looked like he was on the 2nd day of a 3 day bender.

Is it too late to jump in on the Tom Herman bidding war?

We aren't firing freeze. But that aside, if I'm a program looking for a new coach Fleck would probably be at the top if my list. Young, can recruit extremely well, hires good coordinators and stays out of their way

Fuente would not leave VT for Ole Miss

Are there any candidates from the NFL that aren't currently being successful at that level but have a proven track record in SEC/NCAA?

Edit: I'm talking about Wommack's position (not Freeze).

Question; If the NCAA and Barney stuff gets worse, can Freeze recover? He'll be perceived as an unethical cheater and lose his recruiting schtick of "Come here and I'll raise your boys in a Christian family atmosphere". That's gone. The cheating, drug pictures, etc. it won't work anymore with the momma's, and we might have a lame duck on our hands. The blind eye excuse won't work in the court of public opinion. The CEO's take the good and the bad when it happens, that's why they're paid so much is because of the high risk/reward involved.

At some point you have to see if your guy making millions will take us to the next level. Ex: Strong at Texas. He hasn't had a long time to prove himself, but its apparent he's not the guy who will ever take them to the next level. The fans know it, the admins know it, and as evidenced by his post game presser, he knows it. When do we consider a clean sweep to wipe the slate and start rebuilding our reputation all over again? Can Freeze shake the talk and ever recover, even with a new staff in place?

I'm not so sure anymore...

If we get hammered, Freeze better make sure he makes a good hire at DC and we improve greatly next year. Will need to go at least 9-3. Shouldn't be hard with Shea and the rest of the offense. Guarantee if we keep Wommack or get another lame duck DC and have a season like this year, plus get hammered, Freeze's seat will be in fire.

As far as recruiting goes, if he can claim ignorance we'll be fine with Freeze. I still believe even if he takes a character hit, he works hard enough on the recruiting trail that'd he'd be able to recover.

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need to go at least 9-3. Shouldn't be hard with Shea and the rest of the offense.

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Do yourself a favor... Start slowly tempering those expectations as soon as you read this and you'll be a lot better off this time next year.

The guy just took us to a GD sugar bowl you redneck idiots. We don't have any fricking talent on defense and a shite load of injuries on offense.

There will be a new DC but stop talking out of your arse.