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Posted on 8/18/16 at 9:20 pm to
Posted by HYDRebs
Houston
Member since Sep 2014
1241 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 9:20 pm to
The degree plan is there in writing for you when you start college. If you're too lazy or dumb enough not to follow it then maybe you deserve an extra semester in college.

Both the advisor and the student athlete are gettig paid to make sure it happens. Its both of their faults not just one or the other.
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 9:24 pm to
He changed majors, the degree plan he started with isn't the one he switched to. Please, before speaking nonsense about someone being too dumb to follow the plan, know what you are talking about.

If you are changing majors, more than likely you will need help knowing what transfers to the major you switched to. Stop trying to make this about Wilkins, at this point with what we know he isn't at fault.
Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 9:53 pm to
Was he changing majors and underloading on hours? Depending on what he was changing it to, wouldn't he be needing to play catchup? How did he end up with too few hours if he was changing majors?
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:55 pm to
My guess since I don't have his transcript would be that some of the courses that he took for the previous major did not transfer over as core credits for the new major. From rumors we are talking a hour or two short with his lowest grade this past semester being a C. If true, the guy was doing his part and just got screwed over.

Maybe there is more to the story like he was told he could drop a class or something.
Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 12:08 am to
Is the issue over hours taken/registered for or hours applied towards his major?
This post was edited on 8/19/16 at 12:09 am
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64454 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 1:22 am to
Towards major
Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 3:39 am to
That makes sense considering the penalty, in which case people shouldn't be up in arms over whether he had enough hours. If he didn't have enough towards his new major, then things would suggest that the advisor didn't do due diligence. Regardless though, unless said advisor advised him of such at the end of July, there was ample opportunity to rectify before it'd be an issue, and clearly there's no rectification after the NCAA deadline. If people are reporting that this issue stems from his change of major, why didn't either party realize that his old classes wouldn't transfer towards his new major? Considering his worst grade was a C, what bad advice did he get and how was he put in a place where he wouldn't have had any sense that he didn't meet the minimum?

I'm of the opinion that JW is a very capable student, and his GPA should reflect such. Having been in similar situations, I do wonder what caused such a communication breakdown, and, as a sceptical observer, I have to think there's more than him purely changing majors. Having added a major and having had more friends than I can count change majors, it's ridiculous to think that our Athletic Department couldn't figure it out just because he changed his major.
Posted by HYDRebs
Houston
Member since Sep 2014
1241 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 10:30 am to
Okay so he changed majors. Again its not that hard to look at the new degree plan and understand what classes qualify under your new major.

The adviser screwed up royally, but Jordan definitely could have done his due diligence to make sure he was on track. Again part of the blame is on his shoulders. He's what 21, 22 years old?
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 10:41 am to
quote:

The adviser screwed up royally, but Jordan definitely could have done his due diligence to make sure he was on track. Again part of the blame is on his shoulders. He's what 21, 22 years old?




I understand what you are saying but the advisers job is to advise and Jordan's job is to play football.
Posted by SquarePizzaRebel
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2013
2360 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:01 am to
The more and more I think about this, I feel for JW. He got screwed man. This potentially has ruined his future in football. The rules are the rules, but it sucks for him and I'd fully support him if he wants to transfer. We let him down.
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:17 am to
I think he stays and plays out his senior year. If Cam signs with us though I would bolt.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:18 am to
If I'm him, I'm gone yesterday.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8174 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:23 am to
I disagree. It can be confusing and the kid was told he was good and believed the advisor he was TOLD to trust. You are basically saying that he should have thought to himself, maybe this guy who is paid to handle this for me came up 1 credit short. I am going to do the math myself and double check him. No college football player in America would have done that.
Posted by SquarePizzaRebel
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2013
2360 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:23 am to
There's also no telling how well Swinney will play. He already has the chip on his shoulder, and now this is more pressure/opportunity for him to step up.

This post was edited on 8/19/16 at 11:25 am
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:33 am to
Where would you go? Is there any great program that would take him?
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:38 am to
Idk why they wouldn't take him if his grades are fine and he has to sit out a year anyway. I'm sure a place like memphis would welcome him with open arms.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46375 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:38 am to
He would have to sit regardless so he could go JUCO which being a fourth year student I don't know how it would work or he could go pro. I don't think he can go to a lower division because he's academically ineligible. As for Swinney he was going to play a bunch regardless of Wilkins' status. Pennamon is the one who is going to have to get up to speed in a hurry.
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:45 am to
Yeah I know Memphis would take him but I was wondering if he could go to a decent power 5 program.
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:47 am to
quote:

he could go pro.



I don't see that even being an option. He needs to play his senior year or he wont make a roster.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46375 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:52 am to
I didn't say he would make it


Besides sitting in Oxford for a year those are his only realistic options.
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