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With all the gun talk, need handgun recommendations...
Posted on 12/7/15 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 12/7/15 at 6:13 pm
Christmas present from the Missus is an offer to buy me a gun. Thinking either a 9mm or a 1911 .45. I've shot a few 9's that I liked but buddy had a 1911 that I really liked the feel and was incredibly accurate with. Any recommendations on models to take a look at or pros/cons of 9mm v. 45ACP?
Obviously cost of ammo leans heavily in the favor of the 9mm, and in order to be proficient with either, it's going to take a good number of rounds through either at the range.
Overall goal would be home defense as I'll never be a Range warrior, but will definitely put in the requisite time to stay proficient with it.
Obviously cost of ammo leans heavily in the favor of the 9mm, and in order to be proficient with either, it's going to take a good number of rounds through either at the range.
Overall goal would be home defense as I'll never be a Range warrior, but will definitely put in the requisite time to stay proficient with it.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 6:26 pm to fibonaccisquared
S &W M&P Shield 9 mm. Great gun.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 6:35 pm to fibonaccisquared
I prefer the 1911. I carry a Colt New Agent. 9mm is a good round and the guns carry more capacity, but I just like the .45ACP stopping power.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 6:35 pm to AU86
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S&W M&P Shield 9 mm. Great gun.
This.
Its almost perfect.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 6:36 pm to Agforlife
Beretta 92FS or 96FS.
If you can find one get a Italian made 9mm Beretta Cougar in Inox. That is one sweet running and looking machine.
If you can find one get a Italian made 9mm Beretta Cougar in Inox. That is one sweet running and looking machine.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 6:39 pm to Ridgewalker
Glock Model 22 .40 caliber
Posted on 12/7/15 at 6:41 pm to VaBamaMan
2 votes for the S&W M&P Shield 9 mm here and have heard this before.
Any particular thoughts on why? Will definitely research but curious why the loyal following on this one. The only S&W 9mm I shot I really liked the sights and natural aim on, but didn't love the weight/feel of the gun... overall felt almost too light, so didn't seem like I was as steady with it.
Any particular thoughts on why? Will definitely research but curious why the loyal following on this one. The only S&W 9mm I shot I really liked the sights and natural aim on, but didn't love the weight/feel of the gun... overall felt almost too light, so didn't seem like I was as steady with it.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 6:45 pm to fibonaccisquared
For concealment purposes, a keltec 32. Lightweight and looks like a wallet.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:05 pm to fibonaccisquared
What's your handgun experience?
What's your wife's handgun experience?
If the answer to both is little to none, may I recommend a revolver chambered in .357/.38?
Revolvers are point and click simple, safe, and reliable. Three advantages that might mean a great deal in a stressful situtation. You and the wife can shoot mountains of .38 Special for cheap and load up some hot .357 for sentry duty.
As far as a 1911 in .45 vs anything in 9mm, child please.
What's your wife's handgun experience?
If the answer to both is little to none, may I recommend a revolver chambered in .357/.38?
Revolvers are point and click simple, safe, and reliable. Three advantages that might mean a great deal in a stressful situtation. You and the wife can shoot mountains of .38 Special for cheap and load up some hot .357 for sentry duty.
As far as a 1911 in .45 vs anything in 9mm, child please.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:09 pm to five_fivesix
My experience is moderate. Have spent a fair amount of time at the range and/or firing friends handguns "in the woods". Would not say I'm proficient with any particular model, so somewhat agnostic there.
My wife on the other hand is fairly limited. She's been to the range with me before and had shot handguns a few times previously as her dad was DOD, but by no means proficient/comfortable, so will definitely involve some more training time for her. Interesting idea with the 357/38... will look around. I know that the last time we went to the range, she shot my friends 357 revolver and loved it.
My wife on the other hand is fairly limited. She's been to the range with me before and had shot handguns a few times previously as her dad was DOD, but by no means proficient/comfortable, so will definitely involve some more training time for her. Interesting idea with the 357/38... will look around. I know that the last time we went to the range, she shot my friends 357 revolver and loved it.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:10 pm to fibonaccisquared
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Any particular thoughts on why? Will definitely research but curious why the loyal following on this one. The only S&W 9mm I shot I really liked the sights and natural aim on, but didn't love the weight/feel of the gun... overall felt almost too light, so didn't seem like I was as steady with it.
Go take a gander on the outdoor board. Google conceal carry, tons of advice. In a thread last week a guy asked about the Shield in .40, and in 2 or 3 pages that only negative comments were about the round, not the gun.
The Shield 9mm is accurate, small, light, controllable, easily concealable, holds 7, 8, or 9 rounds, never jams, never have to clean it...I'm trying to think of a con, and I can't.
Mine has jammed once since I bought it used from a friend, and that was with cheap steel casing ammo. It's never been cleaned since the day it was purchased new by him.
Modern 9mm ammo has rendered the .40 obsolete. Hits harder, shoots straighter, has better penetration, and you get an extra round.
If you don't plan on carrying, just get a full size M&P.
Edit: When I say light, I mean it's easy to carry without trying to pull down your belt line.
Curious here, did you shoot the M&P, M&P Shield, the SD, or the Bodyguard?
This post was edited on 12/7/15 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:15 pm to VaBamaMan
Thanks! Didn't even realize there was such a thing as the "Outdoor Board". Will hunt around. All the input is much appreciated. Want to start narrowing down the hunt to a few different models before I research in depth and go look for a place that I can fire (side by side ideally).
I had mentally registered that I likely wouldn't need to CC, but in my mirror thread on the UGA board had it brought up that my mindset of not needing CC in the places I frequent is likely flawed given the current climate.
I had mentally registered that I likely wouldn't need to CC, but in my mirror thread on the UGA board had it brought up that my mindset of not needing CC in the places I frequent is likely flawed given the current climate.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:16 pm to fibonaccisquared
Ruger GP-100 or an SP-101 are built like tanks and can be had for $500-$600. S&W also make some fine, fine revolvers, but you'll pay a few hundred more. Taurus aren't bad, I've got a M617, 7 shot .357 that is a tack driver.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:24 pm to VaBamaMan
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When I say light, I mean it's easy to carry without trying to pull down your belt line.
Curious here, did you shoot the M&P, M&P Shield, the SD, or the Bodyguard?
I believe it was the SD.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:24 pm to VaBamaMan
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never have to clean it
I'm gonna have to look more into the Shield. I've never owned a gun that I didn't have to clean periodically.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:27 pm to five_fivesix
Just buy as many as you can. You can never have enough firepower.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:28 pm to five_fivesix
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I've never owned a gun that I didn't have to clean periodically.
I mean, it isn't a literal never. Just once every 10 years/10,000 rounds or so.
For example, I've had two Hi-Points, and both have been reliable guns...mostly. But only if I shoot good ammo through them and cleaned them every 100-150 rounds. Compared to that kind of effort, the Shield is a "never".
This post was edited on 12/7/15 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:31 pm to fibonaccisquared
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I believe it was the SD.
Ahhh. I see.
The Shield is completely different.
I generally defend the SD, its better than its reputation, but I don't know how S&W managed to make a gun so inconsistent in quality.
The only thing equal on all of them, is the abysmal trigger. It's way too heavy and the pull is way too long. That's probably what gave you the impression of no control.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:32 pm to fibonaccisquared
Glock 19. No need to get fancy. The 1911 is over 100 years old and is severely limited in magazine capacity, and the .45 is overrated. A +P 9mm hollow point will get the job done just fine.
This post was edited on 12/7/15 at 7:34 pm
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