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wish auto manufacturers would start refurbishing some really good older models.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:32 am
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:32 am
I have a 1992 Isuzu Trooper that I bought new, still use it for the woods and other stuff, It's been an unreal good vehicle, has the Chevy 2.8 V-6 in it and has 320,000 miles on it now,never given a minutes problem. Of course the A/C stopped working several years ago, and some other rinky dink stuff too, but I wish I could buy another new one,or one refurbished to factory specs.
Just had a new set of tires on it,and driving it home I was thinking about this. I love driving it.
Just had a new set of tires on it,and driving it home I was thinking about this. I love driving it.
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:39 am to auggie
Environmental and safety regulations make cars no fun at all.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:46 am to GnashRebel
But I think they could refurbish to the original 1992 requirements,right?
There really isn't a comparable vehicle on the market now,very basic,throttle body injection,old type HEI ignition.simple as you could ask for.
Basically, they could build a new one,and use the old serial numbers.
There really isn't a comparable vehicle on the market now,very basic,throttle body injection,old type HEI ignition.simple as you could ask for.
Basically, they could build a new one,and use the old serial numbers.
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:49 am to auggie
It would probably be too expensive for them. They are all about quantity. They make money on selling new, big, expensive cars. Even some of the cheaper new cars they sell don't make any money for them.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:00 am to GnashRebel
yeah, but for certain vehicles, I think people would pay a lot extra to buy a factory refurbished model. I would,because I know how good it is.
Not saying do all models, for example,Toyota could refurbish some original FJ's or mid 80's Pick ups, Ford could do some 68 or 69 Mustangs,etc...
Not saying do all models, for example,Toyota could refurbish some original FJ's or mid 80's Pick ups, Ford could do some 68 or 69 Mustangs,etc...
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:08 am to GnashRebel
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Environmental and safety regulations make cars no fun at all.
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Except Technology, materials and engineering keep getting better.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:25 am to Person of interest
That's great and all, but is going in the absolute opposite direction of what I would like to be able to buy.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:39 am to auggie
There are a lot of nostalgia based cars out there now days, must be for boomers as most are based on 60's cars.
If you are talking reliability, safety and efficiency, quality standards are much better now than they were in the 80's.
The systems are more complicated but these are compromises we make to have the modern amenities offered/wanted.
ETA: I have a Wrangler with roll down windows that I love, looked for one with a manual transmission but they were very few and completely stripped of anything.
If you are talking reliability, safety and efficiency, quality standards are much better now than they were in the 80's.
The systems are more complicated but these are compromises we make to have the modern amenities offered/wanted.
ETA: I have a Wrangler with roll down windows that I love, looked for one with a manual transmission but they were very few and completely stripped of anything.
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 11:42 am
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:17 pm to Person of interest
There is one manufacturer who just started doing this, but Mercedes is charging quite the premium for their in-house refurbish jobs...
LINK - It's in German but you get the idea
LINK - It's in German but you get the idea
Posted on 11/30/15 at 1:55 pm to auggie
I refurbished a 1967 442. Car was in primer, no interior, no motor or tranny. All it required was replacing or rebuilding every component on the vehicle.
I did it all myself over 1 summer in a 2 car suburban garage, you can do it too!
All it takes is time, money and skill. You can find a lot of skill on youtube if you are careful. Or find a group that is into that car and join their forum.
I did it all myself over 1 summer in a 2 car suburban garage, you can do it too!
All it takes is time, money and skill. You can find a lot of skill on youtube if you are careful. Or find a group that is into that car and join their forum.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:58 pm to Ridgewalker
I have restored several cars myself,but don't have the time or desire anymore ,and even though they turned out great, they still weren't like brand new cars. That's what I'm talking about.Basically the factory using the old serial number, to make a new one.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 3:03 pm to auggie
3D print it. :)
Posted on 11/30/15 at 3:27 pm to Ridgewalker
well, like I said, if they concentrated on their most popular models, it seems doable. I think I gave a little over 12,000 bucks for my trooper in 92. If I could give them mine and 25 grand and get a brand new one back, I would do it.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 3:35 pm to auggie
Problem is if the factory refirbs it they have to bring it up to modern specs thus making it cost prohibitive and not practical
Posted on 11/30/15 at 3:38 pm to auggie
How many of you would buy say a brand new 1965 Mustang or a 67 Camaro? Sure it would be with a modern version of engine and drivetrain but they could run a certain number and sell every last one of them. Or get preorders before deciding to make the cars.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 3:41 pm to antibarner
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How many of you would buy say a brand new 1965 Mustang or a 67 Camaro? Sure it would be with a modern version of engine and drivetrain but they could run a certain number and sell every last one of them. Or get preorders before deciding to make the cars.
If they used the actual old dies and stampings to make the parts then yes, if not I can buy all the parts to build my own cheaper.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 3:45 pm to Agforlife
well, that sucks, because I would want it just like it was built originally. That's what makes it so great. Its so damn simple and reliable.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 3:47 pm to antibarner
Retooling an assembly plant is complicated on many levels, using subcontractors and new tooling, design, testing and years of planning. The molds, dies and companies that made them back in the day don't exist now. The machine used to stamp out 1965 body panels does not exist. The only way to pay for tooling and labor is to have long runs in the millions.
Model A's were made from top to bottom in one location. Iron, rubber and leather going in one end cars coming out the other.
Model A's were made from top to bottom in one location. Iron, rubber and leather going in one end cars coming out the other.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 3:54 pm to Agforlife
yeah Mustangs are definitely the cheapest to restore.So many of them get done,you can buy most everything pretty cheap, but its not factory.
Would love to buy a brand new 69 SCJ!
Would love to buy a brand new 69 SCJ!
Posted on 11/30/15 at 6:24 pm to auggie
There are a few companies out there with original tooling making repop parts. You just have to do the research and see which ones have the original tooling for the make you're after. Ie: AMD has the Chrysler stuff, OPGI has the GM stuff etc.
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