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Posted on 11/22/15 at 5:44 pm to 1 Damn Good Dawg Man
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I ain't the smartest cookie in the jar, but I do believe that both Christianity and Islam believe in the Abrahamic God.
They do. They just believe in different "prophets" so to speak. Muhammed for Islam and Jesus for Christians.
I believe in God and generally follow the teachings of Christianity, but I'm not fully convinced that Jesus was who he claimed to be. I know Muhammed was no prophet of God. I think it's entirely plausible that both Jesus and Muhammed were simply talented men that used religion to further political goals. It wouldn't have been hard in those times to fool a bunch of largely ignorant uneducated people. The Old and New Testament largely contradicts each other, and it's a valid question to whether if Jesus was the Son of God or simply just a man who was rather a liberal for his time and saw things differently. Do keep in mind the Israelites (jews) were God's chosen people and they were the ones who killed Jesus and to this day do not believe he is who he says he was.
I just can't buy into the fact that you have to accept Jesus as your savior and only through him can you reach salvation. Jesus was a man. There have been millions of people since Jesus who never even heard his teachings...so they go to Hell? That isn't a fair and just God imo. I think you can have a direct relationship with God and ask him for forgiveness without worshiping a human "prophet". It makes a ton more sense to me.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 9:07 pm to deltaland
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I think you can have a direct relationship with God and ask him for forgiveness without worshiping a human "prophet". It makes a ton more sense to me.
You are leaving out one very important element to the whole thing, the wages of sin. Sin separates man from GOD. GOD is holy, and cannot dwell where sin exists. Sin could only be reconciled with GOD by the shedding of blood. the old testament covenant between GOD and man allowed communion with GOD thru burnt offerings and blood sacrifices on an altar. A new covenant between GOD and man was established when GOD came to earth in a man named Jesus, who made the ultimate blood sacrifice for the sin that separates man from GOD by being nailed to a cross, and this act allows all men reconciliation to GOD by believing that Jesus paid the debt for your particular sin, which then allows man to come before GOD one on one...pretty cool, huh?
Posted on 11/22/15 at 9:10 pm to REBSontheRISE
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You are leaving out one very important element to the whole thing, the wages of sin. Sin separates man from GOD. GOD is holy, and cannot dwell where sin exists. Sin could only be reconciled with GOD by the shedding of blood. the old testament covenant between GOD and man allowed communion with GOD thru burnt offerings and blood sacrifices on an altar. A new covenant between GOD and man was established when GOD came to earth in a man named Jesus, who made the ultimate blood sacrifice for the sin that separates man from GOD by being nailed to a cross, and this act allows all men reconciliation to GOD by believing that Jesus paid the debt for your particular sin, which then allows man to come before GOD one on one...pretty cool, huh?
Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read. Congrats.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 9:21 pm to Stonehog
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Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read. Congrats.
You didn't type it, so there is no possible way it's the dumbest thing you've ever read.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 9:22 pm to Stonehog
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Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read. Congrats.
surely this isn't the first time you've ever been introduced to the basic concept of Christianity, is it. because what I wrote is just that, the basic concept of Christianity. whether you accept it or find it dumb has no bearing on me, unless you are critiquing my writing skills. that would be between you and God.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 9:31 pm to REBSontheRISE
Do you believe in Santa?
Posted on 11/22/15 at 9:45 pm to JCinBAMA
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Time to bring the Knights Templar back.
Hell yes. Sign my old arse up. I'll take the motrins and start getting back in shape as best I can ... this time we get to use M14s though, rather than swords.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 9:52 pm to Stonehog
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Do you believe in Santa?
my beliefs were not the subject of the post I replied to, and weren't necessarily divulged in my comment. I just gave a very brief and simplistic overview of the basic concepts of Christianity. I am not sure why you wish to take issue with ME, when the problem you have with what I wrote is with God, and the bible.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:08 pm to REBSontheRISE
ANSWER THE QUESTION
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:27 pm to Stonehog
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ANSWER THE QUESTION
Im under no obligation to answer a silly question that has no bearing on the subject being discussed, especially since your only contribution to the discussion has been that you find Christianity 'dumb'...thank you for that, we are all better off for having read it...( my first inclination was to point out that your comment exposed how unintelligent and dim witted you are, but then I actually looked at your screen name and saw that you pull for the hogs and realized that this has been established long long before this thread was ever created.)
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:29 pm to REBSontheRISE
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the old testament covenant between GOD and man allowed communion with GOD thru burnt offerings and blood sacrifices on an altar.
Quick question because I do not know the answer...do modern Jews still do this since they don't believe Jesus was the savior?
And it's very possible that Jesus was in fact the savior. Not saying I believe he wasn't, only was pointing out that it makes no sense for Jesus to be the only way to reconcile sin with God, since millions of people were never given the opportunity to hear about Christ. And also that it is possible we are all wrong, and Jesus was only a man who tricked millions into believing his own personal beliefs and teachings of the word of God, no different than Joseph Smith and Mormons.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:44 pm to deltaland
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Quick question because I do not know the answer...do modern Jews still do this since they don't believe Jesus was the savior?
a valid question...when the Roman army destroyed Jerusalem and the temple, Jewish sacrifices essentially stopped. GODS's word was explicit that no sacrifice was to be burnt except on the altar at the tabernacle and, later, the temple. With the destruction of the temple and the exile of the Jews, there was no place to give an authorized sacrifice. Today, there are Moslem structures, the al-Aqsa Mosque and Dome of the Rock, on the Temple Mount. Although opinions vary as to whether GOD would take present circumstances into account and allow sacrifices to be made in other places, for the most part the Jews no longer sacrifice animals. Instead,they take the heart of other old testament scripture and apply it to their own situation.
Psalm 40:6: "In sacrifice and offering you have not delighted, but you have given me an open ear. Burnt offering and sin offering you have not required."
Psalm 51:16-17: "For you will not delight in sacrifice, or I would give it; you will not be pleased with a burnt offering. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise."
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:02 pm to deltaland
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Quick question because I do not know the answer...do modern Jews still do this since they don't believe Jesus was the savior?
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No. To above question
Also you asked if jesus could have tricked people. Possibly but you need to realize that the first followers of jesus all died while preaching belief in him. Its hard to imagine anyone dieing for something they know is a lie
Quick question because I do not know the answer...do modern Jews still do this since they don't believe Jesus was the savior?
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No. To above question
Also you asked if jesus could have tricked people. Possibly but you need to realize that the first followers of jesus all died while preaching belief in him. Its hard to imagine anyone dieing for something they know is a lie
Posted on 11/23/15 at 2:08 am to 1234567k
Why can't people see why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
Posted on 11/23/15 at 6:34 am to 1234567k
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Possibly but you need to realize that the first followers of jesus all died while preaching belief in him. Its hard to imagine anyone dieing for something they know is a lie
It's very possible that his first followers were tricked as well.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 11:06 am to pvilleguru
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Most of these extremists aren't following the Quran, or they're just picking the parts that they like.
In regard to ISIS, your statement is about as close to 100% incorrect as you can get.
Worth the read on ISIS
Posted on 11/23/15 at 11:15 am to CrimsonTideMD
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The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic.
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Leaders of the Islamic State have taken emulation of Muhammad as strict duty, and have revived traditions that have been dormant for hundreds of years. “What’s striking about them is not just the literalism, but also the seriousness with which they read these texts,” Haykel said. “There is an assiduous, obsessive seriousness that Muslims don’t normally have.”
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Enslaving the families of the kuffar [infidels] and taking their women as concubines is a firmly established aspect of the Shariah that if one were to deny or mock, he would be denying or mocking the verses of the Koran and the narrations of the Prophet … and thereby apostatizing from Islam.
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fully enforce Islamic law, which requires stonings and slavery and amputations… Enslaving the families of the kuffar [infidels] and taking their women as concubines is a firmly established aspect of the Shariah that if one were to deny or mock, he would be denying or mocking the verses of the Koran and the narrations of the Prophet … and thereby apostatizing from Islam.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 11:58 am to CrimsonTideMD
Like I said, they pick the parts they like.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 12:06 pm to scrooster
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this time we get to use M14s though, rather than swords.
I can't believe you've gone soft rooster. Knowing you, I'd think the swords too small to impale the optimum number of terrorist scum.
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