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What is the worst argument you've heard for a postion you support?

Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:21 pm
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:21 pm
A bad argument is painful enough, but when it's coming from your side of the court, it's even worse.

What statements have made you go
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:52 pm to
Recently seeing pro-gun folks criticize the gender-neutral signs has cracked me up since their mantra has long been that "a sign isn't going to stop someone".
Posted by Stacked
Member since Apr 2012
5675 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:56 pm to
Hard to choose just one. So many contributors. I see so many here making the same tired, getting-older-by-the-second-in-today's-world, stock arguments for christianity that I used to faithfully make with the same conviction I use to have. So in a way this applies. Now it just makes me sad for them. When I sounded like them, it was the only thing that made sense to me too. I couldn't see any other way. Most of the time the abused can't. I just wouldn't allow myself to be anywhere near the mindset it takes to truly be honest with yourself. Thank God I did. I wouldn't live a single day different now.
This post was edited on 6/15/16 at 12:02 am
Posted by Jeb Busch Lite
Member since Apr 2016
1855 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 12:02 am to
Does it annoy you when believers insist on telling you they're believers/recite scripture/talk about God?
Posted by Stacked
Member since Apr 2012
5675 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 12:04 am to
Not really. I understand they can't help it.
Posted by Jeb Busch Lite
Member since Apr 2016
1855 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 12:07 am to
Gotcha. I just never understand non-believers who attack believers for being too outspoken with their faith and then they turn around and do the same thing with trying to show people that how much of a non-believed they are
Posted by Stacked
Member since Apr 2012
5675 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 12:29 am to
Yeah, don't know what to tell you, man. It doesn't annoy me when others share their beliefs. But thanks for telling me how you feel about it anyway even when I didn't take your bullshite bait.
This post was edited on 6/15/16 at 12:34 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 6:27 am to
quote:

Does it annoy you when believers insist on telling you they're believers/recite scripture/talk about God?

It annoys me a bit.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:00 am to
When people say that 2nd amendment has anything to do with personal self-defense or hunting. The fathers of the constitution gave us the second amendment to give us the ability to overthrow our government if it got tyrannical. I'm tired of this being an argument.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10268 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:19 am to
I'm a huge fan of the second amendment. And I own about a dozen guns. And I support the right to own assault rifles (I own two ARs myself).

But the argument that we need them for self defense is preposterous. The best home defense weapon is a 20ga shotgun. Followed closely by a semi auto handgun.

I cannot think of a single reason why I would ever want an AR in my hands if someone were breaking into my home.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10268 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:22 am to
quote:

anything to do with personal self-defense or hunting.

You're right about self defense and right about protection from tyrannical governments.

But I hunt wild hogs with my AR and a 10-round clip. It's much more effective than a bolt action rifle.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:45 am to
quote:

A bad argument is painful enough, but when it's coming from your side of the court, it's even worse.

What statements have made you go



Like 90% of what Stacked says.
Posted by Stacked
Member since Apr 2012
5675 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:47 am to
Everything I say is right. You'd do good for yourself to be more like me and stop catering to the less witted in the name of tolerance and peace. It's time to leave the less witted behind and stop pulling them along in the name of a better society for the majority who want to really try to live civilly. There's no place in a civil world for an uncivil anything. Religion is among the most uncivil thing our society practices. Blood and sacrifices and offerings and relic practices. The sooner we abandon it the better for the majority of us who know it's what is needed.
This post was edited on 6/15/16 at 8:53 am
Posted by Jeb Busch Lite
Member since Apr 2016
1855 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:49 am to
You're such a happy person
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55179 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:55 am to
You seem so terribly sad, hateful and angry all the time. Maybe if you were more open, tolerant and not focusing on judging others so much you'd be more at peace?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:55 am to
quote:

I'm a huge fan of the second amendment. And I own about a dozen guns. And I support the right to own assault rifles (I own two ARs myself).

But the argument that we need them for self defense is preposterous. The best home defense weapon is a 20ga shotgun. Followed closely by a semi auto handgun.

I cannot think of a single reason why I would ever want an AR in my hands if someone were breaking into my home.



I think in the case of it being familiar, someone might prefer it. I'm really not opposed to some sort of regulation being imposed on it. Like maybe you have to belong to a shooting club for 6 months or something in order to purchase one. Iunno. There are creative solutions where we can make incentive and common sense bigger players, while not inhibiting our second amendment rights. You aren't allowed to own a bazooka or a hand grenade, so we already understand common sense limitations, maybe we need to throw the AR-15(or MCX or whatever else) in to the middle ground. Where you can obtain one, but it's more difficult.

Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Everything I say is right. You'd do good for yourself to be more like me and stop catering to the less witted in the name of tolerance and peace. It's time to leave the less witted behind and stop pulling them along in the name of a better society for the majority who want to really try to live civilly. There's no place in a civil world for an uncivil anything. Religion is among the most uncivil thing our society practices. Blood and sacrifices and offerings and relic practices. The sooner we abandon it the better for the majority of us who know it's what is needed.


OP, this is what I'm referring to.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55179 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:58 am to
Or at the very least stop giving gun licenses to people on the terrorist watch list
Posted by Stacked
Member since Apr 2012
5675 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:01 am to
I'm more interested in being right than happy. lol. Only sad losers would want it the other way around.

Fortunately, being right has in return made me happier than I ever thought I was as a Christian. Should've gotten some more spackle to cover those holes I guess. Then i might've stayed ignorantly in bliss like the Christians still here.
This post was edited on 6/15/16 at 9:02 am
Posted by Stacked
Member since Apr 2012
5675 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Maybe if you were more open, tolerant and not focusing on judging others so much you'd be more at peace


You're asking me to not judge others so much?
This post was edited on 6/15/16 at 9:07 am
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