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To what extent does your state fly/use the confederate flag?
Posted on 6/24/15 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 6/24/15 at 12:00 pm
This is insteresting to me. I guess I never realized the extent to which the Confederate flag was still in use.
Arkansas' state flag has confederate-esque tendencies, but so do a lot of southern flags.
It has one star out of four which represents the state belonging to the confederacy. The other three stars represent France, Spain and the U.S., the other nations of which Arkansas was a part.
I don't think we've ever officially flown the Confederate Flag in any capacity. What about your state?
I know Georgia had the Confederate Flag in its state flag design until several years ago, and Mississippi currently has it as part of theirs.
Where is your state being un-PC with regard to the new anti-rebel flag sensitivity?
Arkansas' state flag has confederate-esque tendencies, but so do a lot of southern flags.
It has one star out of four which represents the state belonging to the confederacy. The other three stars represent France, Spain and the U.S., the other nations of which Arkansas was a part.
I don't think we've ever officially flown the Confederate Flag in any capacity. What about your state?
I know Georgia had the Confederate Flag in its state flag design until several years ago, and Mississippi currently has it as part of theirs.
Where is your state being un-PC with regard to the new anti-rebel flag sensitivity?
Posted on 6/24/15 at 12:04 pm to Numberwang
I have no idea, I don't keep up with it.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 12:17 pm to Numberwang
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I know Georgia had the Confederate Flag in its state flag design until several years ago, and Mississippi currently has it as part of theirs.
We ditched it in 2001, so 14 years ago.
What a lot of people don't realize is that our current flag is purposefully modeled after the actual confederate stars and bars flag. It was the state's way of compromising between the outcry for them to drop the southern cross and the demands for "heritage" to be kept intact. Then again, most on either side have no real concept for state history so I don't think many noticed.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 6/24/15 at 12:17 pm to TT9
What do you consider your state, bro?
Posted on 6/24/15 at 12:47 pm to Numberwang
Alabama flew the flag currently in the PC police crosshairs over the state capitol every now and again but not regularly from the end of the war until the 1930s (usually when tied to CSA veteran events and such).
In the early 1960s, George Wallace decided to give Robert Kennedy the big middle finger and flew it atop the state capitol when Kennedy visited the state and it just never came back down.
It was removed from atop the dome in 1993. Since then, some very small CSA flags were flown from poles that are part of a CSA veteran's monument on the capitol grounds. The governor ordered them removed this morning. They were very small flags and you couldn't even see them from the road but that action has as expected created a media fap-fest.
The only other place I know of a CSA flag flying is at the first confederate white house - which is just that - the home that Jefferson Davis lived in when Montgomery was the capitol city of the CSA but that one's the first national flag which is historically accurate for the museum.
In the early 1960s, George Wallace decided to give Robert Kennedy the big middle finger and flew it atop the state capitol when Kennedy visited the state and it just never came back down.
It was removed from atop the dome in 1993. Since then, some very small CSA flags were flown from poles that are part of a CSA veteran's monument on the capitol grounds. The governor ordered them removed this morning. They were very small flags and you couldn't even see them from the road but that action has as expected created a media fap-fest.
The only other place I know of a CSA flag flying is at the first confederate white house - which is just that - the home that Jefferson Davis lived in when Montgomery was the capitol city of the CSA but that one's the first national flag which is historically accurate for the museum.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 12:58 pm to Numberwang
The current Alabama state flag was created in 1895. It's modeled after the St. Andrew's Cross, which was also the battle flag of the 60th Alabama regiment during the Civil War. A crimson cross on a white background.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:09 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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The current Alabama state flag was created in 1895. It's modeled after the St. Andrew's Cross, which was also the battle flag of the 60th Alabama regiment during the Civil War. A crimson cross on a white background.
But the use of that flag in Alabama predates the civil war and goes all the way back to the time Spain controlled southern Alabama.
Here's the flag that influenced the flag that became the state flag flying in Puerto Rico today.
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Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:10 pm to Numberwang
It's not even close IMO.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:15 pm to roadGator
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t's not even close IMO.
Yours is inspired by the same Spanish heritage as Alabama's.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:15 pm to Numberwang
Georgia, Tennessee, Mississippi, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Arkansas: all of your flags are symbols of the Confederacy.
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Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:19 pm to DownSouthJukin
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Georgia, Tennessee, Mississippi, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Arkansas: all of your flags are symbols of the Confederacy.
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They base the entire premise on the fact that the Alabama AG noted in an opinion that the sponsor of the bill that designated the flag served in the 60th Alabama and molded it after his unit's battle flag.
What it fails to note is that unit's battle flag was molded after the Spanish flag used in Alabama even prior to statehood.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:20 pm to JustGetItRight
It's actually based on St Andrews cross.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:26 pm to roadGator
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It's actually based on St Andrews cross.
Florida and Alabama both call it St Andrew's cross, but it is really a derivative of the Cross of Burgundy.
Here's your (and our) flag over the oldest continuously occupied city in the US - St. Augustine, FL.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 6/24/15 at 3:08 pm to JustGetItRight
Dude, you're fighting a losing battle here. Yes, there is an older design that our state flag was "officially" based on in 1895, but even the most ardent supporters of our state flag acknowledge that its design was almost certainly defacto selected due to its strong resemblance to a certain other flag that was prominent in that era. Most Reconstruction-era reforms were not replaced with "Jim Crow" laws until the 1890s (when our current state flag was also incidentally adopted). Time to move forward and replace it.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 3:11 pm to TT9
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Tennessee
I was afraid of that. You been singing any karaoke at Bullfeathers?
Posted on 6/24/15 at 3:13 pm to JustGetItRight
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The only other place I know of a CSA flag flying is at the first confederate white house - which is just that - the home that Jefferson Davis lived in when Montgomery was the capitol city of the CSA but that one's the first national flag which is historically accurate for the museum.
The state still has flies one at the taxpayer funded Confederate Memorial Park.
Other than that one and the one at the first white house of the confederacy, I'm not aware of any.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 3:16 pm to Evolved Simian
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The state still has flies one at the taxpayer funded Confederate Memorial Park.
Other than that one and the one at the first white house of the confederacy, I'm not aware of any
I forgot about the park. I don't know which flags they fly there. The first white house uses the stars and bars, which as I said is historically accurate.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 3:16 pm to TheDude321
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even the most ardent supporters of our state flag acknowledge that its design was almost certainly defacto selected due to its strong resemblance to a certain other flag that was prominent in that era
That "other flag" was almost completely unused in that era, so, no, you are dead wrong.
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