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This Place Matters - Bitter Southerner

Posted on 1/6/15 at 8:49 am
Posted by RollTide MJ
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Nov 2007
9523 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 8:49 am
I stumbled across this site (The Bitter Southerner) and they sometimes have some pretty good articles. It's stories about places, people, and things of the south. They are pretty lengthy but still good reads and they send out a newsletter every Tuesday with new stories.

Today's newsletter has a story about Monogah, West Virginia where Nick Saban played football. It's a long read but it's good. It does mention Saban and his dad a lot but it's not focused primarily on the two.

You may enjoy it or you may not, but you can probably find something on their site that you like either way.

This Place Matters

Bitter Southerner

Stories Archive
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 8:52 am
Posted by guschamp84
St Marks Florida
Member since Dec 2014
718 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 8:51 am to
frick West Virginia. Not Southern.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27701 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 9:07 am to
West Virginia is really just Eastern Ohio.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 9:41 am to
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The Bitter Southerner)


Oh yea, that's a website as a Southerner I'm just dying to visit.
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
Member since Jan 2012
4494 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 9:51 am to
I'll vouch for the website. It's got some great writing. Not every piece is gonna speak to you, but there is some great stuff about music, sports, etc. on there. I highly recommend it.
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4622 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 9:52 am to
You should be. It's pretty awesome.

Here's his explanation for why he started it and the name:
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This whole thing got started because I got pissed off. Bitter, as it were.



Here's how it happened. My then-fiancée and I spent a week in New Orleans. We spent time with amazing barkeeps like Chris Hannah at Arnaud’s French 75, Kirk Estopinal at Cure and one of the granddaddies of the American cocktail revival, Chris McMillian at Bar Uncommon.

We drank very well. We heard great stories. We learned.

Shortly after we returned, Drinks International released its list of the top 50 bars in the world. Not a single bar in New Orleans — or anywhere in the South — was on the list. I felt a familiar twinge of bitterness. I remembered the first time I moved away from the South, to New York City, and learned that my accent could trigger certain negative assumptions. To my new NYC acquaintances, my twang equaled "dumb" or "backward" or worse. Of course, when people discovered that I was reasonably intelligent and could speak in complete sentences, their assumptions quickly melted away. I learned a lesson: Sometimes, you just gotta show people.

I decided somebody needed to show the world our region’s drinking secrets. So I rounded up a gang of co-conspirators — designers, photographers, videographers, whiskey geeks — with a plan to hunt down the South's finest barkeeps and ask them to tell their stories. We would give them their due.

Then we started thinking: There’s a larger point here, a bigger story to be told.

You see, the South is a curiosity to people who aren’t from here. Always has been. Open up your copy of Faulkner’s 1936 masterpiece, “Absalom, Absalom!” Find the spot where Quentin Compson’s puzzled Canadian roommate at Harvard says to him, “Tell about the South. What it’s like there. What do they do there. Why do they live there. Why do they live at all.”

It always comes down to that last bit: With all our baggage, how do we live at all? A lot of people in the world believe that most folks in the South are just dumb. Or backward. Just not worth their attention.

And you know what? If you live down here, sometimes you look around and think, “Those folks are right.” We do have people here who will argue, in all sincerity, that the Confederacy entered the Civil War only to defend the concept of states’ rights and that secession had nothing to do with the desire to keep slavery alive. We still become a national laughing stock because some small town somewhere has not figured out how to hold a high school prom that includes kids of all races.

If you are a person who buys the states’ rights argument … or you fly the rebel flag in your front yard … or you still think women look really nice in hoop skirts, we politely suggest you find other amusements on the web. The Bitter Southerner is not for you.

The Bitter Southerner is for the rest of us. It is about the South that the rest of us know: the one we live in today and the one we hope to create in the future.

According to Tracy Thompson’s brilliant “The New Mind of the South,” it’s been only two decades since Southern kids (including the entire Bitter Southerner crew) stopped learning history from censored textbooks, which uniformly glossed over our region’s terrible racial history. Even today, kids are studying texts that Thompson rightfully labels “milquetoast” in their treatment of Southern history.

And recent election results suggest that the Southern mind hasn’t evolved much, that we’re not much different from what we were in 1936, when Faulkner was struggling yet again with the moral weirdness of the South. Almost 80 years later, it’s still too damned easy for folks to draw the conclusion that we Southerners are hopelessly bound to tradition, too resistant to change.

But there is another South, the one that we know: a South that is full of people who do things that honor genuinely honorable traditions. Drinking. Cooking. Reading. Writing. Singing. Playing. Making things. It's also full of people who face our region's contradictions and are determined to throw our dishonorable traditions out the window. The Bitter Southerner is here for Southern people who do cool things, smart things, things that change the whole world, or just a few minds at a time.

The world knows too little about these people, which is, alas, another reason to be bitter. But it prompted us to create The Bitter Southerner™.

We’re talking here about people whose work embodies what my old buddy Patterson Hood once called, in a song, “the duality of the Southern thing.” The purpose of The Bitter Southerner is to explore, from every angle we can, the duality of the Southern thing.

Last time I saw Patterson, we sat in his van outside Eddie’s Attic in Decatur, Ga. We were talking about how his view had changed in the dozen or so years since he’d written that song.

To him, the 2012 election results brought clear evidence that we are moving into a more progressive era, and that our southern home might actually be following, however slowly. “We may actually wind up living in a more enlightened country,” he said, and laughed a little.

Still, the tension — the strain between pride and shame, that eternal duality of the Southern thing — remains. Lord knows, most folks outside the South believe — and rightly so — that most Southerners are kicking and screaming to keep the old South old. But many others, through the simple dignity of their work, are changing things.
“We may actually wind up living in a more enlightened country”
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PATTERSON HOOD of THE DRIVE-BY TRUCKERS




We’re here to tell their stories. Over time, you’ll see many pieces about bartenders, because a) that’s where we started and b) we very much enjoy a great cocktail. After all, one Southern tradition worthy of honor is the act of drinking well. But we’ll also cover the musicians, cooks, designers, farmers, scientists, innovators, writers, thinkers and craftsmen. We’ll show you the spots that make the South a far better place than most folks think it is. You’ll also see essays, short stories and poems — pieces that Bitter Southerners like ourselves create as we wrestle with our region. And every now and then, we’ll give you a peek at the oddities that seem to happen only down here.

We hope you’ll enjoy The Bitter Southerner and spread the word about it. Help us round up other Bitter Southerners, no matter where they live.

We hope you’ll want to contribute to The Bitter Southerner. In fact, we need you to. Right now, we have no budget and a staff of volunteers, so we're starting in our hometown of Atlanta. But we know there are others out there like us, people with the skills to capture a good story, or create one. Tell us your ideas. Let us know who you are.

The stories are out there, all over the South. They deserve to be told.

Until we tell them all, we will remain as bitter as Antoine Amedie Peychaud.

Welcome to The Bitter Southerner.
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 9:54 am
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 10:23 am to
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You should be. It's pretty awesome.

Here's his explanation for why he started it and the name:


Thanks for the insight. Goes to show that you can't judge a book by the cover but in this case the cover has a distinct negative connotation. Here's what I imagined: a website dedicated to shaming Southerners supported by multiple liberal progressive Democrats. I could not have been more wrong but you have to admit that the name of the website could easily be misinterpreted.
Posted by RollTide MJ
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Nov 2007
9523 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 10:28 am to
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I'll vouch for the website. It's got some great writing. Not every piece is gonna speak to you, but there is some great stuff about music, sports, etc. on there. I highly recommend it.


I agree 100% with you. Sometimes I open the newsletter and nothing really jumps out at me, but sometimes I'll have to sit and read every article. They had one on Talladega back in May that was pretty good.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20449 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 10:31 am to
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West Virginia is really just eastern Kentucky and bears no resemblance to eastern Ohio.




FIFY

Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
Member since Jan 2012
4494 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 10:40 am to
Correct. West Virginia is southern in the way that Kentucky, East Tennessee, and Western North Carolina are southern. Southern Appalachia is different than the Deep South but it's definitely southern in my view.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18494 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 10:44 am to
Those who say WV is not southern have not studied the Mason-Dixon line.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37561 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:55 pm to
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RollTide MJ


Upvoted and subscribed.

Posted by RollTide MJ
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Nov 2007
9523 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:55 pm to
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scrooster


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Upvoted and subscribed.


This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 3:56 pm
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12249 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 4:57 pm to
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Upvoted and subscribed.


Same here
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27701 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 9:02 pm to
Ever been to places like Steubenville, Oh.( Dean Martin's home town), Toronto,Oh.or Marietta,oh.?, They are exactly the same as Wheeling West Virginia, or Huntington, or Parkersburg.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 9:36 pm to
Okay, I read the whole story.

It was well worth my time.

Thanks for sharing.

Posted by FleshEatingSalsa
Floating down the Anduin
Member since Dec 2009
12293 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:36 am to
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To him, the 2012 election results brought clear evidence that we are moving into a more progressive era, and that our southern home might actually be following, however slowly. “We may actually wind up living in a more enlightened country,” he said, and laughed a little.



What are they getting at here? The Presidential results? What specifically about the results gave them hope?

Based on your post, the guy seems like 50% cool, 50% douchebag.
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