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The SEC home offices in Birmingham ...

Posted on 2/28/13 at 7:55 am
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 7:55 am
Civil rights and the collapse of Birmingham


Civil Rights and the Collapse of Birmingham, Ala.

By John Bennett

Birmingham, Alabama is considered by many to be the birthplace of the civil rights movement. Today, African-Americans in Birmingham benefit from a numerical majority in the population, corresponding majorities in government jobs, and political control of the city. But civil rights won't address what ails the city now..... (read the rest in the link above. It is the home of our SEC Home Office - and the SEC Home Office needs to be moved.)
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 7:57 am
Posted by sorantable
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Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 7:58 am to
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Mi scusi?

Posting an link to an article about the city in which the home office of the SEC is located is a bannable offense in your backwards-assed mind?
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 7:59 am to
What are you implying with this thread?
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 8:01 am to
Awesome link and post. You nailed it. Metro Birmingham is the ONLY city in America where 'white flight' has taken place since the 1960's. Only city in the USA with suburbs.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 8:12 am to
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What are you implying with this thread?


I'm not implying anything young man. I am clearly stating that the SEC Home Offices need to get out of Birmingham.

I travel to B-ham frequently. I usually stay down in Five Points, nice little old hotel down there that I've done business with for so many years that we know each other well. I like parts of the city - it's the perfect place for UAB, etc., but it is no longer the perfect place for the SEC Home Offices.

The city is in serious trouble. Franklin County and the City of Birmingham have defaulted on so many bills they owe, to the tune of billions of dollars, and left so many contractors hanging - they've actually caused businesses to go out of business simply by not paying private companies what they owe them in a timely manner post tornadoes.

They have serious leadership problems and will continue to have serious leadership problems which will continue to translate into serious fiscal problems far beyond the accepted norm in the country these days.

The city is well on the way to be a Southern version of Detroit and the time to get out is now, not later. Make the move now, chalk it up to a need to find a more neutral home within the conference footprint, whatever, but just get out now so that you are not bailing on the city when the proverbial crap finally does hit the fan.
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 8:13 am to
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I'm not implying anything young man. I am clearly stating that the SEC Home Offices need to get out of Birmingham.

I'll ignore your condescension and ask you where they should move to.

Then I'll give you plenty of reasons why they shouldn't move there.

We could do this all day.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 8:16 am to
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Franklin County


What's that got to do with Birmingham or Jefferson County?
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 8:27 am to
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What's that got to do with Birmingham or Jefferson County?


Sorry, meant Jefferson County, had Franklin County on the brain because of an ongoing legal issue with an owner there.

Jefferson County has defaulted on so many jobs that half the city is under various liens right now waiting to be settled in various BK courts .... it is a travesty that the city is even allowed to operate that way. If a citizen of the city defaulted on taxes owed at the rate in which the city, and Jefferson County, default on their bills --- well, it's going to end-up happening that way regardless. Doesn't matter. It is inevitable.

As the article indicates, no one is happy with the leadership in Birmingham right now - no one. Yet their is absolutely nothing that can be done about it - it is what it is. So the time to gtfo is now.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 8:29 am to
What's county leadership have to do with the SEC?
Posted by Master of Sinanju
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 8:29 am to
I agree. They should move the office down to Tuscaloosa were it belongs.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 8:41 am to
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I'll ignore your condescension and ask you where they should move to.

Then I'll give you plenty of reasons why they shouldn't move there.

We could do this all day.


Don't ignore it Son, own it.

To where they should move is irrelevant. Let them hire consultants and let them negotiate with cities and counties to determine that. The main objective should simply be to gtfo out of B-ham before it is too late and they end-up with egg on their face.

And no, we will not do this all day. I've no time to try to educate some snot-nosed little Internet know-it-all who fails to grasp the obvious and has not lived long enough to become fluent in reading the writing on the wall. The reasons to move out of Birmingham are legion - endless even. The cons now far outweigh the pros. Move to Huntsville ... that's personally where I would like to see them moved to, or even Mobile, but just gtfo of B-ham IMHO.

There is a little area sort of situated in the middle of the triangle (beautiful valley in the foothills) that is Huntsville, Decatur and Athens, Alabama - incredible little area with quick and easy access to I-65 and the Hunstville airport and not far from Nashville .... it would be perfect. The SEC could build a showcase up there, a palace for all the world to behold. Something that other conferences could look upon and admire with great jealousy and envy in their hearts.

The Sheraton on on Richard Arrington is past its prime, not in a great location and not even a good place for SEC Media Days anymore ... which is why they moved it to Hoover.

Hoover has never stepped-up to the plate and full-filled their promises to be the next home of the SEC with regard to everything they said they would do over a decade ago.

Those people up in Madison County, they know what they are doing and they do it well.
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 8:45 am
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:03 am to
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Don't ignore it Son, own it.

frick you
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:24 am to
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frick you


Sorry, Son. My generation doesn't go for all that taking it up the arse stuff - but hey, we're not going to be judgmental of you and your sexual preference or lifestyle - bend over and have at it all you want.

I have to ask though, what is it with you guys? You think you know everything. You take it up the arse all the time. You're hypocrites when it comes to the whole condescending patronizing thing ... I don't get it? And always so anal retentive ... well, I guess I do get it with regard to your anal retentiveness, but the mere thought makes me shudder.

Still no, you shall not be allowed to frick me Son. Matter of fact, you would regret even trying.

How come I knew this about you right from the get-go, as soon as you whipped-out the ban smiley? I guess you reek it huh?
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 9:30 am
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:28 am to
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What's county leadership have to do with the SEC?


Did you read the article, about the city, located within the county?

Better yet, if I may, allow me to ask you:

What redeeming attribute, what value, does Birmingham add to the SEC that warrants the SEC staying in B-ham? What benefit does it bring to the conference because, as I understand it, B-ham offers no tax incentives, no special considerations, not even any subsidies for improvements ... yet the SEC brings millions and millions in revenue to the city of B-ham yearly.

What does B-Ham offer that adds balance?
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:45 am to
You're being a count.
Posted by MsGarrison
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:45 am to
Birmingham is doing fine financially.. I get so sick of people assuming Birmingham went bankrupt.

Birmingham downtown population and growth is rising..
Railroad Park, Regions Field, numerous loft developments, The Westin and The Uptown District are just some recent new developments.. Heck, the ol dome expansion has came back.
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 9:53 am
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:56 am to
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Birmingham is doing fine financially.. I get so sick of people assuming Birmingham went bankrupt.


Who typed anything about B-ham going BK? If you read the article, that is not B-ham's major malfunction. B-ham has worse problems and just happens to be located inside the county that filed the largest municipal bankruptcy in the history of the United States of America ... and ironically, most of it has to do with sewers which, btw, definitely does affect and involve B-ham.

Regardless, it is what it is. Read the article, combine it with the poor leadership in the city and county, and what you have is what I stated before, a formula for B-ham to become the Detroit of the South ... or even, let's say, the South Bend of the South. Either way it's the same.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:01 am to
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The city is well on the way to be a Southern version of Detroit and the time to get out is now, not later.



This is far from the truth.
Posted by MsGarrison
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:03 am to
That is just Bham slander from the article... Who cares about a city attorney being fired.. The article lacks any substantial information about how the City is trending in a different direction... Birmingham isnt Detroit.. As long as UAB and the medical district is in Bham the city will be fine.


May I ask, where the heck do you reside...


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