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The 20k House Project

Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:07 pm
Posted by oR33Do
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
13561 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:07 pm
Seems like a potential Alahunter thread. The plainsmen doing some good work here.

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Our goal was to design a market-rate model house that could be built by a contractor for $20,000 ($12,000 for materials and $8,000 for labor and profit)—the 20K House, a house for everybody and everyone. We chose $20,000 because it would be the most expensive mortgage a person receiving today’s median Social Security check of $758 a month can realistically repay. A $108 monthly mortgage payment is doable if you consider other monthly expenditures. Our calculations are based on a single house owner, because 43 percent of below-poverty households in Hale County are made up of people living alone. That translates to a potential market of 800 people in our county.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13893 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:09 pm to
You don't need a $20,000 house that can be built from the ground up, just move everyone that can only afford a $20,000 house to Detroit for the next few years.

Save a city and house people in decent places for a while.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 8:10 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39970 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:11 pm to
Is that blue house on the far right just a garage?
Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:13 pm to
I would think a $20k house would fall apart within a few years.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:14 pm to
So they made mobile homes.....except....non-mobile.

Interdasting.
Posted by oR33Do
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
13561 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:14 pm to
No, it's another house. I believe they made these all in a row. I think it's quite an interesting project.

I love small houses like this, even better I like unique homes.

Most of these are no bigger than a studio apartment but it can be affordable.
Posted by mwlewis
JeffCo
Member since Nov 2010
21208 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:16 pm to
I'm not surprised by this. Right now you can buy a home and do renovations to make it more like you want cheaper than you can build a house.
Posted by oR33Do
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
13561 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:16 pm to


Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:20 pm to
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I'm not surprised by this. Right now you can buy a home and do renovations to make it more like you want cheaper than you can build a house.

Yep. We were trying to sell our house a while back, but our area still hasn't recovered, and our house is valued at less than what you can build it for now. Thankfully we're not upside down.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12121 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:30 pm to
why is a 20k house supposed to be a pipe dream? Seems like an easy project to do, I mean a 750SF shotgun house with 1 full bath and a bedroom should easily be built under the 20k mark.

I would think that you could even come close to this number using block for the exterior walls and framed roof and it should be very energy efficient.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13893 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:32 pm to
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why is a 20k house supposed to be a pipe dream? Seems like an easy project to do, I mean a 750SF shotgun house with 1 full bath and a bedroom should easily be built under the 20k mark.



Hell, think if you built it for yourself.

I don't get why the whole house you can afford a mortgage on is the dream. The fact that it turns out to be this little shack is even worse.

Not to mention the fact that the land probably isn't included.
Posted by Charlestondawg
South Cackalack
Member since Oct 2013
976 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:37 pm to
This is a good idea. Japanese been doing something like this for decades due to small living spaces and urban areas.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39970 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

I love small houses like this, even better I like unique homes.



You might like this then.

Illegal Treehouse
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20471 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:58 pm to
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decent places


I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you haven't seen the condition of vacant properties in Detriot in recent years.

Most were in terrible states of neglect before they were abandoned.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9668 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:04 pm to
I like it. Better'n a trailer.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12121 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

Hell, think if you built it for yourself.



it kind of always shocked me when Habitat for Humanity builds a house for a family with people who are capable of getting out and helping to build it. You would think that they would require them to help when they can in order to get it.

There was a project going on years ago that one guy built like 10 houses and the people who got the houses had to sign a contract to work for him during the time and for a year or two after. When those homes were built, they began building more houses and getting more employees and again the houses would be lived in by the people building them. Not sure what happened to the project but it was a really interesting idea. You train people with skills, give them a roof over their head and a job to go to all at the same time.
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:22 pm to
This is pretty interesting. I'm nearing the end of build a house right now, but I was doing alot of research in the beginning about alternative methods of framing/ energy savings.

There are alot of products out there that aren't widely used yet like SIP panels that could really have an impact on this type of housing in the future.

Also, if industrial grade hemp were available material costs would decrease dramatically, but that's a whole other issue.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13893 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

it kind of always shocked me when Habitat for Humanity builds a house for a family with people who are capable of getting out and helping to build it. You would think that they would require them to help when they can in order to get it.



I work with H4H, and they do tend to come out, but not as often as you'd like. Most of the time it's just a big scheme for corporations to get their employees to volunteer and get the good press/karma and the fact that these people don't do much doesn't come up.

I've been involved in a few punch card walkthroughs, and you'd be surprised how many complaints there are from the people receiving the house, especially considering how little time they spent on the house compared to others.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 9:32 pm
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
7785 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:57 pm to
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I've been involved in a few punch card walkthroughs, and you'd be surprised how many complaints there are from the people receiving the house, especially considering how little time they spent on the house compared to others.


That would feel like nails on a chalkboard to me.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259898 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:37 pm to
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I'm not surprised by this. Right now you can buy a home and do renovations to make it more like you want cheaper than you can build a house.



I see a lot of this in the future. Few people are building starter homes anymore, and many young people are struggling with affordable housing.

One day people will realize you don't need a McMansion.
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