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Should public schools administer drug tests?
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:32 pm
The issue has come up here in Louisville after a local, private Catholic school has decided to begin a random drug testing program that applies not just to athletes but the whole student body. This has prompted several public school parents to petition for random drug testing in public schools.
Personally, I have an issue with taxpayers footing the bill for that instead of the parents. And that whether public or private, it should be an issue that is handled by the parent period.
Personally, I have an issue with taxpayers footing the bill for that instead of the parents. And that whether public or private, it should be an issue that is handled by the parent period.
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:52 pm to BluegrassBelle
Yes but my little Johnny and Suzy would never do drugs. Says 95% of parents everywhere. My kids school ( private) has been random drug testing for years. Never had a problem with it.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:00 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I have an issue with taxpayers footing the bill for that instead of the parents
As far as athletics go, I feel whatever college is offering scholarships to a particular kid should be able to request and fund randoms if they care about that sort of thing.
Otherwise what taxpayer wants to pay for a bunch of kids to fail pot tests?
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:03 pm to BluegrassBelle
I think anything that requires receiving a benefit from the government, should require drug testing.
Whether that benefit is education, food stamps, welfare, or whatever.
Whether that benefit is education, food stamps, welfare, or whatever.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:04 pm to slacker130
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I think anything that requires receiving a benefit from the government, should require drug testing. Whether that benefit is education, food stamps, welfare, or whatever.
My only counter to that is are you comfortable with paying for that?
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:05 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Should public schools administer drug tests?
Absolutely not. Who cares if they do drugs? They're frickin high schoolers, all of them are smoking anyway. With an employer, ok I can see wanting to test because they want to make sure their employees (who represent the company, and are there to work and make money for said company) aren't coming to the job fricked up and not only screwing over the company (potentially) but possibly causing some liability issues as well.
High schoolers? Seriously who cares.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:10 pm to BluegrassBelle
As a parent with two high school aged children, I have very strong opinions about this subject.
Firstly: The State of Alabama has no right to test my kid for drugs. It's an invasion of their privacy and I don't want the state or school involved.
Secondly: I don't need the State of Alabama or my kids' high school to hide behind. What do I mean? fricking pussy parents off load the drug testing to the school so them and their children can remain friends. frick that.
My senior had some serious issues regarding drugs. It is a very simple and inexpensive to test your kids at home or at a lab. fricking man up and parent and have consequences for failed tests.
Firstly: The State of Alabama has no right to test my kid for drugs. It's an invasion of their privacy and I don't want the state or school involved.
Secondly: I don't need the State of Alabama or my kids' high school to hide behind. What do I mean? fricking pussy parents off load the drug testing to the school so them and their children can remain friends. frick that.
My senior had some serious issues regarding drugs. It is a very simple and inexpensive to test your kids at home or at a lab. fricking man up and parent and have consequences for failed tests.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:14 pm to BluegrassBelle
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My only counter to that is are you comfortable with paying for that?
It would pay for itself if you forfeited the benefit with a + test.
Now do I think a kid who tests + for pot should be booted with the quickness, no. But a repeat offender or a more serious drug, maybe.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:18 pm to BluegrassBelle
When I was in high school, we were drug tested. It wasn't very effective because it seemed like the same kids we're being tested week in and week out even though they weren't drug users.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:19 pm to BluegrassBelle
Hahaha frick no.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:20 pm to Aubie Spr96
As someone working in education, we're on the same page.
We've already been saddled with a lot of things parents should be doing to begin with (i.e. discipline, food/water and clothing essentials, medical care, etc). I have no desire to also drug test a child and then be responsible for disciplining that child. If he's distributing on school property that's one thing, because at that point it's a clear violation of not just the student code of conduct but also the law.
The private schools are simply using it to weed out the "bad seeds" and have another excuse to kick kids out. Which is their right as a private institution. But in a public school situation where they're "required" to attend if they're not home schooled then it's a whole different story.
We've already been saddled with a lot of things parents should be doing to begin with (i.e. discipline, food/water and clothing essentials, medical care, etc). I have no desire to also drug test a child and then be responsible for disciplining that child. If he's distributing on school property that's one thing, because at that point it's a clear violation of not just the student code of conduct but also the law.
The private schools are simply using it to weed out the "bad seeds" and have another excuse to kick kids out. Which is their right as a private institution. But in a public school situation where they're "required" to attend if they're not home schooled then it's a whole different story.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:22 pm to slacker130
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Now do I think a kid who tests + for pot should be booted with the quickness, no. But a repeat offender or a more serious drug, maybe.
But why should that be the school's responsibility if it doesn't occur on school grounds? Students commit other crimes all of the time outside of school hours but are not penalized at school for it, because that's their business if it doesn't involve the school. Why should a drug charge/usage be any different?
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:23 pm to slacker130
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think anything that requires receiving a benefit from the government, should require drug testing. Whether that benefit is education, food stamps, welfare, or whatever.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:23 pm to CuttinARugWithBear
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the same kids were being tested week in and week out even though they weren't drug users
that was intentional, so the school could report back to the state or whoever "look, none of our students do drugs. We pass at a 100% clip!"
They knew what they were doing. Let's test sally kwan the president of the honor society but leave billy burnout over there alone and don't pay him any attention.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:28 pm to BluegrassBelle
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The issue has come up here in Louisville after a local, private Catholic school has decided to begin a random drug testing program that applies not just to athletes but the whole student body. This has prompted several public school parents to petition for random drug testing in public schools.
Personally, I have an issue with taxpayers footing the bill for that instead of the parents. And that whether public or private, it should be an issue that is handled by the parent period.
Not sure why a public school would want to drug test kids. There are no school related consequences for using drugs outside of school. Any public school district that tried to impose this as a requirement would spend the next decade or more in court and lose.
If a private school wants to do this foolishness then go for it.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:28 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Should public schools administer drug tests?
Absolutely not.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:30 pm to BluegrassBelle
Only to young broads who teach--really want to find out why so many of them are fricking our kids like rabbits.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:31 pm to Hardy_Har
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You seriously believe a 17 year old should be thrown out of a public high school for smoking a joint?
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ink anything that requires receiving a benefit from the government, should require drug testing. Whether that benefit is education, food stamps, welfare, or whatever.
You seriously believe a 17 year old should be thrown out of a public high school for smoking a joint?
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:37 pm to cave canem
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Not sure why a public school would want to drug test kids.
Most in the district would rather not. It's the parents who are rallying to try to petition for it.
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There are no school related consequences for using drugs outside of school. Any public school district that tried to impose this as a requirement would spend the next decade or more in court and lose.
Agreed. I have no problem helping parents get assistance through counseling programs and referring them to rehabilitation programs if they suspect their child has a drug addiction. But unless it's occurring on school grounds, it shouldn't be the responsibility of the school system to deal with that issue.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:38 pm to BluegrassBelle
Hell no. It's none of the schools business whether someone is doing drugs or not.
Parents should control their own kids
Parents should control their own kids
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