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Operation Northwoods
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:16 pm
Fake hijack civilian airliners.
Blame Cuba.
Agenda -- create a reason to invade Cuba.
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It's a real thing. Declassified.
JFK stopped it from happening.
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But your government wouldn't do that..
Blame Cuba.
Agenda -- create a reason to invade Cuba.
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It's a real thing. Declassified.
JFK stopped it from happening.
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But your government wouldn't do that..
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:21 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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JFK stopped it from happening.
JFK was not a fan of the intelligence complex in the first place. Pretty sure that's why he and Bobby were offed.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:31 pm to To the Dome
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Liar
Nope.
It's true.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 5:46 pm to HempHead
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JFK was not a fan of the intelligence complex in the first place. Pretty sure that's why he and Bobby were offed.
You're mistaken about Kennedy's relationship with the CIA.
In my estimation, there are only two plausible explanations for his assassination: 1) Oswald really was a lone nut or 2) the Mafia did it. I believe the latter theory. The Kennedys are known to have had ties to the Mafia from their father, but during his administration they pursued an aggressive stance toward it. That would account for why Jack Ruby, known Mafia associate, killed Oswald - to shut him up because there was a second shooter. To me, the Zapruder film is undeniable evidence of a second shooter and I can never be convinced otherwise.
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Posted on 9/11/15 at 5:48 pm to CrimsonCrusade
Always happy to read new information. Much obliged.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 5:53 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Also, the difference between Northwoods and 9/11 is apparent. The hijacking planned in Northwoods would not have resulted in massive civilian casualties. In fact, only the most extreme version of the plan had anyone killed at all. Moreover, there was clear reason to want to invade Cuba after the missile crisis. There was absolutely no reason to invade Afghanistan, which was the result of 9/11. Afghanistan has nothing to offer in the way of oil; it's almost all mountains. The government never said that the invasion of Iraq was revenge for 9/11, because Iraq was known not to have been involved with 9/11. It was officially based on the faulty evidence suggesting that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, but also driven along by the military industrial complex and its representatives within Bush's cabinet. The two major problems with the 9/11 conspiracy theories is that there is no clear motive for the government and that there are far less bloody and cheaper ways to have galvanized support for legislation like the Patriot Act.
Posted on 9/12/15 at 9:28 am to CrimsonCrusade
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Also, the difference between Northwoods and 9/11 is apparent
Why would it need to be exactly the same?
Fake hijacking. Fake terrorist. To achieve an agenda.
It's noteworthy. To say the least.
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There was absolutely no reason to invade Afghanistan, which was the result of 9/11.
My child. Please.
Posted on 9/12/15 at 9:34 am to Sleeping Tiger
So.. It's real, but it never happened?
Posted on 9/12/15 at 9:43 am to CrimsonCrusade
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In my estimation, there are only two plausible explanations for his assassination: 1) Oswald really was a lone nut or 2) the Mafia did it. I believe the latter theory. The Kennedys are known to have had ties to the Mafia from their father, but during his administration they pursued an aggressive stance toward it. That would account for why Jack Ruby, known Mafia associate, killed Oswald - to shut him up because there was a second shooter. To me, the Zapruder film is undeniable evidence of a second shooter and I can never be convinced otherwise.
Someone understands motive
Posted on 9/12/15 at 9:43 am to auggie
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So.. It's real,
It was a real plan
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but it never happened?
Correct
Posted on 9/12/15 at 10:03 am to Wtodd
I guess, this is why we have a system of government, such as we do.
We have a system, where plans that get dreamed up by some young genius, have to get reviewed and OK'd by older people with cooler heads.
That's exactly how it's supposed to work.
You want those guys to dream up crazy stuff, that's what they are employed to do. It's not their job, to consider the legality or morals of their little plan, that's for other people to do, and there will be somebody that puts a stop to it.
We have a system, where plans that get dreamed up by some young genius, have to get reviewed and OK'd by older people with cooler heads.
That's exactly how it's supposed to work.
You want those guys to dream up crazy stuff, that's what they are employed to do. It's not their job, to consider the legality or morals of their little plan, that's for other people to do, and there will be somebody that puts a stop to it.
Posted on 9/12/15 at 10:16 am to auggie
Fair point but this plan wasn't dreamed up by some young genius. The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer and sent to the Secretary of Defense.
Posted on 9/12/15 at 10:33 am to Wtodd
Then the system worked,exactly as it should.
Posted on 9/12/15 at 10:43 am to auggie
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Then the system worked,exactly as it should.
Understand your point but I think it shows everyone what our Gov't is capable of....killing innocent US civilians just to start a war.
Posted on 9/12/15 at 10:44 am to auggie
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Then the system worked
- No one, ever
Posted on 9/12/15 at 11:04 am to HempHead
I find it hilarious that most conspiracy theorists are usually to the extreme right of the political spectrum. They scream about how broken government is until they discover some Machiavellian conspiracy that would require multiple levels of government to work to perfection
Posted on 9/12/15 at 11:13 am to jackmanusc
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They scream about how broken government is until they discover some Machiavellian conspiracy that would require multiple levels of government to work to perfection
You'd be surprised how few people it takes to pull off something evil.
Posted on 9/12/15 at 11:17 am to Wtodd
Capable? Of course it is.
It's a bit like a human being. We are all capable of dreaming up some crazy shite,that we think me might want to do. I think each and every one of us has done it,and even gone so far,as to research the possibilities of doing something bad or crazy,before the cooler part of our personality,considers the likely outcome,or the morality of such an action. Of course there are some people, that don't have that "sane" voice inside of them,and they pull some sicko shite.
In these government conspiracy theories though, You would have to have a whole shitload of people involved,and not a one of them have that "sane" voice, that says "We can't do this shite,it's crazy"
It's a bit like a human being. We are all capable of dreaming up some crazy shite,that we think me might want to do. I think each and every one of us has done it,and even gone so far,as to research the possibilities of doing something bad or crazy,before the cooler part of our personality,considers the likely outcome,or the morality of such an action. Of course there are some people, that don't have that "sane" voice inside of them,and they pull some sicko shite.
In these government conspiracy theories though, You would have to have a whole shitload of people involved,and not a one of them have that "sane" voice, that says "We can't do this shite,it's crazy"
Posted on 9/12/15 at 11:46 am to auggie
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In these government conspiracy theories though, You would have to have a whole shitload of people involved,and not a one of them have that "sane" voice, that says "We can't do this shite,it's crazy"
I don't agree with the whole shitload of people scenario.....you'd be amazed at what 20 motivated people can do with unlimited resources.
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