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re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:30 pm to JustGetItRight
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:30 pm to JustGetItRight
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I'm the exact opposite. I started of knowing I'd disagree with a lot of his politics but being very hopeful that he'd use is position to improve race relations and be an inspiration to young black men. I really thought he had a great chance to be a positive influence on a lot of lives.
I grew to despise him when I saw that instead of doing that, he was going all in with the 'blame whitey and frick the police' movement.
This x 1000
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:34 pm to 1BamaRTR
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I think Obama will be remembered by the majority as a mediocre or average at best POTUS. Now, obviously, liberals will view him as one of the best ever while conservatives will view him as one of the worst ever.
The best way to sum up the thread in two sentences
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:36 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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You're in fact incapable of thinking clearly on the matter of politics, you're way too fricked up over it.
or you are a liberal or you don't think for yourself. i think he's one of the most boring speakers of all time and obviously very reliant on the teleprompter.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:37 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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lic speaker. That's part of the problem--he had the charisma to honey-coat the poison he spewed, and people ate it up. Snake oil salesman of a president.
i think he's a cold aloof man. to me, Trump has charisma, Dubya, and Reagan had charisma.
he never sold anything, that's why Democrat party lost so many congressional seats and governorships.
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:44 pm to Tillman
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Trump has charisma, Dubya, and Reagan had charisma.
Agreed, but Obama also has it. Unfortunately. He exploited it (and the American people) to the fullest
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he never sold anything, that's why Democrat party lost so many congressional seats and governorships.
Trump's charisma carried the day in this election. But the reason the Dems had such a stronghold to begin with is because he Obama was extremely adroit at selling nebulous, superfluous poppycock like "hope and change."
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:46 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Haha, poppycock
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:53 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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ay in this election. But the reason the Dems had such a stronghold to begin with is because he Obama was extremely adroit at selling nebulous, superfluous poppycock like "hope and change."
i think the main reasno is he could turn out minorities like never before and there were a lot of white guilt / virtue signal votes for him.
i associate charisma with being funny or witty or a 'people person'. Obama is aloof, reserved, doesn't smile a lot.
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:01 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Haha, poppycock
That's a word with "good smack," I don't care who you are
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:03 pm to Tillman
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i think the main reasno is he could turn out minorities
Even more than that was he got a crazy turnout from the 18-29 year olds
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:04 pm to rockiee
A social reformer who focused on minority issues.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
his illegal executive order on immigration was probably the worst thing. he wud like to be a dictator like Hugo Chavez or Castro.
giving Iran a pile of money including a cash ransom for hostages is actually probably tied for 1.
also think his decision to not ban airplanes from countries with ebola epidemic is the craziest decision of all time.
here's a handy chart
giving Iran a pile of money including a cash ransom for hostages is actually probably tied for 1.
also think his decision to not ban airplanes from countries with ebola epidemic is the craziest decision of all time.
here's a handy chart
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:40 pm to Tillman
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his illegal executive order on immigration was probably the worst thing. he wud like to be a dictator like Hugo Chavez or Castro.
What?
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:48 pm to TeLeFaWx
I'll remember him as someone who had a tremendous opportunity to do good...and failed miserably.
His time in office was one largely of lawlessness and division.
Dude lost more Federal Lawsuits than any other President and that's with a stacked appointed Lesbian SCOTUS.
Interestingly his time in office expose large numbers of African Americans as racist.
Bottom Five Presidents,
1. Obama
2. T. Roosevelt
3. Wilson
4. Lincoln
5. FDR
His time in office was one largely of lawlessness and division.
Dude lost more Federal Lawsuits than any other President and that's with a stacked appointed Lesbian SCOTUS.
Interestingly his time in office expose large numbers of African Americans as racist.
Bottom Five Presidents,
1. Obama
2. T. Roosevelt
3. Wilson
4. Lincoln
5. FDR
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:53 pm to TeLeFaWx
Holy shite, I agree with you almost entirely.
Two points:
1) I think Obama was a willing and eager catalyst of the divisiveness that currently plagues our country, and this will be his legacy.
2) I think drone strikes are the half-assed crutches he's used to prop up his limp-dicked foreign policy.
You didn't make any mention of this - pure oversight, I expect - Obama's inneffective, and at times, apathetic if not isolationist stand on foreign policy has seen the US lose respect as a global power in eastern Europe and the middle east. Putin's weakness has always been in domestic affairs, and he's inflated the public image of himself by exploiting Obama's weaknesses as a commander in chief and as leader of the free world.
Of particular amusement is the MSM and Democratic party's current obsession with Russia, as Obama openly mocked Romney when he said in 2012 that Russia would become our greatest geo-political foe.
I knew I would hate Obama the President. At times I hoped I would like the man. I don't. In one breath, he weeped over American children murdered by a psychopath to promote his gun-hating agenda, then he haphazardly bombed multiple countries, relying much on second-hand intelligence. It's okay if innocent people die as long as they're not American.
Two points:
1) I think Obama was a willing and eager catalyst of the divisiveness that currently plagues our country, and this will be his legacy.
2) I think drone strikes are the half-assed crutches he's used to prop up his limp-dicked foreign policy.
You didn't make any mention of this - pure oversight, I expect - Obama's inneffective, and at times, apathetic if not isolationist stand on foreign policy has seen the US lose respect as a global power in eastern Europe and the middle east. Putin's weakness has always been in domestic affairs, and he's inflated the public image of himself by exploiting Obama's weaknesses as a commander in chief and as leader of the free world.
Of particular amusement is the MSM and Democratic party's current obsession with Russia, as Obama openly mocked Romney when he said in 2012 that Russia would become our greatest geo-political foe.
I knew I would hate Obama the President. At times I hoped I would like the man. I don't. In one breath, he weeped over American children murdered by a psychopath to promote his gun-hating agenda, then he haphazardly bombed multiple countries, relying much on second-hand intelligence. It's okay if innocent people die as long as they're not American.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:59 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Obamacare didn't work as planned, but it did help people.
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It helped a very small minority of people while simultaneously fricking the rest of us up the arse.
It helped and fricked me. I never would have had my second knee reconstruction or wrist surgery due to pre-existing conditions under the prior system, but I'm a healthy male outside of my self-destructive obsession and I've seen my premiums rise.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:01 pm to Tropic Lightning
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1. Obama
2. T. Roosevelt
3. Wilson
4. Lincoln
5. FDR
Teddy is one of my favorite Presidents. Definitely top 3, IMO.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:05 pm to JustGetItRight
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Giving the green light to enter Pakistan and kill Bin Laden. That took balls I did not think he had and I will always respect him for that decision.
I'm actually torn on this.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:26 pm to TeLeFaWx
Nothing but a grifter and narcissistic arse hole
An enemy within
A divider
Lawless and unqualified to be president
Liar, thief, deceitful, dishonest, dangerous....
Good riddance. I didn't hear one word of his speech. I rarely have listened to him the last 6 years or so. He was an embarrassment to our country. Get your shite packed and gtfo Barrack!
An enemy within
A divider
Lawless and unqualified to be president
Liar, thief, deceitful, dishonest, dangerous....
Good riddance. I didn't hear one word of his speech. I rarely have listened to him the last 6 years or so. He was an embarrassment to our country. Get your shite packed and gtfo Barrack!
Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:15 pm to TeLeFaWx
I will remember the Obama family as being dignified and strong in the face of hate and constant taunting. The love the President and First Lady showed for each other and, especially, for their children was refreshing and a role model for America's upcoming generation.
Have a happy retirement, Mr. President.
Have a happy retirement, Mr. President.
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