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re: Noah's Ark - Kentucky
Posted on 7/5/16 at 5:16 pm to Kentucker
Posted on 7/5/16 at 5:16 pm to Kentucker
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Christians are no more special than any group and must practice their religion within the bounds that the Constitution provides for everyone.
So we do agree on something. When I stop submitting myself to the laws of the constitution is when the laws of the constitution are contrary to the laws of the Bible. Thank God, so far that hasn't fully happened and the constitution still bears the mark of a solid Christian foundation.
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If you haven't noticed, change is sweeping America. Religion's influence in government is fading. Previously oppressed groups are enjoying freedoms once denied to them because of Christian influence in government.
Again, we agree. And I, like Thomas Jefferson, shudder when I think of what is to come when the Christian standards and morals are tossed fully aside from this land and any and every perversion is fully accepted as right. This is what you SJW's call "freedom" - it's what the rest of the world calls chaos and anarchy. And the consequences and judgement will be brutal. God's security and protection that we as a nation enjoy now will disintegrate into desolation.
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Your time has passed. Welcome to the America the Founders intended, one where life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is our first more.
Christianity's time has not passed, nor will it ever. When the last stone man has lain on top of another in this land is eroded to dust, the Word of God and the principles this land was founded on will still be standing taller than ever. People can (and are) changing the land's law today and getting further away from the nation the Founders constructed. But while man's laws can be changed, God's law cant. Right will still be the same right, wrong will still be the same wrong. If this country turns its back on God, It will fall prey to it's enemies and to the wrath of the God it turned away from. So, be very careful what you wish for... you just might get it.
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Posted on 7/5/16 at 5:22 pm to Kentucker
quote:Yeah...they "ran" from it because the King made his own branch that allowed him to get divorces, and they frowned upon that. They "ran" in order to have a much more strict and conservative Christian culture, not to "escape Christianity."
That Christianity was the dominant religion at the time of America's founding means nothing. In fact, the Founders designed the Constitution to prevent any religion from mixing with government, especially Christianity since that was the King's religion the early settlers were running from.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 5:33 pm to PurpleandGeauld
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Christianity is being attacked and Islam is being embraced. By our government.
horseshite. If you evangelical Christians were worth your salt, you'd be out there proselityzing your asses off and converting the 4 million Muslim infidels who currently enjoy citizenship. Instead, you're focused on transgender people who make up .003% of the population.
We must all rise up and destroy Islam.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 5:48 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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When I stop submitting myself to the laws of the constitution is when the laws of the constitution are contrary to the laws of the Bible.
At last, however, there are consequences for you when you choose to violate laws that are founded in the Constitution.
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shudder when I think of what is to come when the Christian standards and morals are tossed fully aside from this land and any and every perversion is fully accepted as right.
At last, you don't get to decide what is perverse and what isn't. This is what you CJWs call "persecution." You don't get your way and cry persecution.
Get used to the new order.
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Christianity's time has not passed, nor will it ever.
I said your time has passed. You no longer get to base your self esteem on non-Christian groups that you could once legally look down upon.
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But while man's laws can be changed, God's law cant
However, God's law as it's interpreted by you and your ilk is being contained within the bounds determined by the Constitution.
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It will fall prey to it's enemies and to the wrath of the God it turned away from.
The biggest enemies of this country are those who want to make it a theocracy. Theocracies are plentiful in the Middle East. They're not doing very well. A Christian theocracy would not fare any better.
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So, be very careful what you wish for... you just might get it.
My wish is the same as that of the Founders, an America where all citizens have equal opportunity for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Feeling pretty good that it's happening.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 5:53 pm to UKWildcats
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Yeah...they "ran" from it because the King made his own branch that allowed him to get divorces, and they frowned upon that. They "ran" in order to have a much more strict and conservative Christian culture, not to "escape Christianity."
And they are making their own branches that they want to allow them to make America a theocracy. There are 41,000+ versions of Christianity.
Most of the people following one of those thousands of versions know that a secular society guarantees them the right and safety to practice their chosen version. Some, like the militant evangelicals don't get it. That's why they feel persecuted.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 7:10 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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...and before anyone starts spouting off about how stupid and uneducated I am for being a Christian, I have a degree in Fine Arts from a liberal, state-funded university. It blows my mind how un-American our own professors are nowadays. And you kids are swallowing their BS hook, line, and sinker....
Yeah, because being dumb enough to believe that a man from the stone age could build a massive boat beyond any shipwright's ability before the late 1800s could fit every animal on the planet on that boat and not lead a shred of physical or genetic evidence of it is being un-American. You do know that America is not a theocracy right? If anything, questioning the status quo (ie: the most unbelievable things we are told) is absolutely American.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 7:21 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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The ONLY thing I subscribe 100% to in all of this is what is in the Bible. The basic foundation Ken's perspectives on things is founded with a basic truth and fact in the Bible as well as math, science, culture, and sound ideology. He theorizes on some details to flesh ideas out using math and scientific facts. He will be the first to tell you that apart than what is directly in the Bible, his (and others) ideas are just that. They make the most sense to have been that way based off the foundational facts in the Bible. And, honestly, those ideas are very logical and make a whole lot of common sense if you take time to read the Bible and then listen to what he has to say. The creations in Genesis project and affiliated ventures are very educational, and it's still a free country, no matter what the SJW's, atheists, feminists, and the like try to say. We Christians have a right and obligation to speak about what we believe. Lord knows everybody else does. Get off his back, and if you CHOOSE to unplug your ears you may be surprised what truth you learn.
But yet I'm willing to bet you eat pork, shellfish, wear multifabric clothing, aren't in favor of stoning people to death who don't acknowledge the Sabbath, and wouldn't sell your daughter off to her rapist if she was raped. Since you ignore those passages, why shouldn't you ignore an impossible mass murder that makes God entirely evil?
I feel very uncomfortable reading many Old Testament passages, and I think any sane person would be as well. Would the Jesus we were taught about really condone a mass murder of every single living thing on the planet? Jesus is a pacifist, and God in the Old Testament is a mass murdering psychopath on the level that has never been done in history before.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 9:18 pm to OMLandshark
Wow...
Posted on 7/5/16 at 10:08 pm to OMLandshark
quote:You'd think that when they were putting the Bible together, they would have left some of that stuff out.
But yet I'm willing to bet you eat pork, shellfish, wear multifabric clothing, aren't in favor of stoning people to death who don't acknowledge the Sabbath, and wouldn't sell your daughter off to her rapist if she was raped. Since you ignore those passages, why shouldn't you ignore an impossible mass murder that makes God entirely evil?
Posted on 7/5/16 at 10:21 pm to pvilleguru
They have a lot of weird crap like that in the Talumd too. Religion has always been about control and politics.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 10:37 pm to Kentucker
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Horse shite. If you evangelical Christians were worth your salt, you'd be out there proselityzing your asses off and converting the 4 million Muslim infidels who currently enjoy citizenship. Instead, you're focused on transgender people who make up .003% of the population.
We must all rise up and destroy Islam.
I said our government is embracing Islam. Not me. If you don't believe that, research it yourself. Islam based curriculum is being taught in some public school systems for instance. And it is being allowed despite legal action and protests from Christians. Our government is deliberately importing hundreds of thousands of them into our country. We need to stop our government immediately or we will be very sorry.
Converting a Muslim to Christianity is practically impossible. They believe Christians (and Americans in general) are the devil. They believe they have to convert us or kill us. Their Bible dictates this.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 10:47 pm to Kentucker
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My wish is the same as that of the Founders, an America where all citizens have equal opportunity for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Feeling pretty good that it's happening.
No it isn't. Our Constitutional rights are being watered down to nothing. Freedom of speech is being replaced by freedom from being offended. Freedom to bear arms, by freedom to flee. Freedom of religion, by freedom to be anything but Christian. We are allowing it one exception to the rule at a time.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:03 am to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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Again, we agree. And I, like Thomas Jefferson, shudder when I think of what is to come when the Christian standards and morals are tossed fully aside from this land and any and every perversion is fully accepted as right.
I hate to tell you this, but Thomas Jefferson didn't believe that Jesus was the son of God. He was openly accused of being an atheist by his political detractors, although in reality he was probably more of a deist. Thomas Jefferson, who may have cherry picked things from the Bible that were of sound reason, did so in spite of Jesus, not because of him.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:45 am to Old Sarge
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There are already a Hampton inn, super 8, holiday in express, Cracker Barrel and 2 gas stations being built right next to it and that's just to start
Why wouldn't they turn that thing into a hotel. It sure is big enough to be one. I mean what else is there to look at? Are they going to put 2 of each animal in lil rooms with some hay on the floor? Is it going to be a giant petting zoo? What is the purpose of this structure? Sure it is a massive feat to big such a thing, but what is the actual intent of it?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:53 am to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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Tithing is Biblical and should be done according to what the Bible says. "Strong-arming" members into tithing is not Biblical, and you should consider changing churches my friend. My church don't "strong-arm" anyone into doing anything. We'd be thrilled to see ya visit us Sunday.
I haven't been in a church since I was 12, with the exception of weddings and funerals. I'm not going to start now.
I was referring to stories of elderly people being booted from their church because they couldn't afford to give them money and such.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:20 am to Kentucker
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At last, however, there are consequences for you when you choose to violate laws that are founded in the Constitution.
Remember, the Constitution is there to protect your rights, not to condone your actions. Just because your actions are protected does not make them moral, right, or just.
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At last, you don't get to decide what is perverse and what isn't. This is what you CJWs call "persecution." You don't get your way and cry persecution.
Get used to the new order.
Legal protection for perverse activity doesn't make it any less perverse.
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You no longer get to base your self esteem on non-Christian groups that you could once legally look down upon.
Americans still have the right to look down upon anybody they want to. Remember that Constitution you were celebrating earlier?
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The biggest enemies of this country are those who want to make it a theocracy. Theocracies are plentiful in the Middle East. They're not doing very well. A Christian theocracy would not fare any better.
Yet countries that espouse atheism fare little better. USSR, China, etc. I wonder if they were better defenders of human rights than the US Christian right? Maybe people are the problem.
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My wish is the same as that of the Founders, an America where all citizens have equal opportunity for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Bear in mind that many terrible leaders have wrapped themselves in the flag.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:59 am to PurpleandGeauld
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I said our government is embracing Islam. Not me. If you don't believe that, research it yourself.
The onus is upon you to prove your point, not to tell someone to research an accusation himself.
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Islam based curriculum is being taught in some public school systems for instance. And it is being allowed despite legal action and protests from Christians.
You should broaden the scope of what you read and listen to on TV, radio and YouTube. There are talking heads out there who want your money and they'll say anything to get you to make a "donation to their cause."
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Our government is deliberately importing hundreds of thousands of them into our country.
Deliberately importing? Oh, the buzzwords of the extreme right.
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We need to stop our government immediately or we will be very sorry.
So, are you saying that the extreme religious right has moved Muslims above sexual minorities as the greatest threat to America? That's a radical paradigm shift.
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Converting a Muslim to Christianity is practically impossible
Whoa there, fella! The power of Christianity has limits? How dare you!
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They believe Christians (and Americans in general) are the devil. They believe they have to convert us or kill us.
Therefore we must all rise up and destroy Islam.
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Their Bible dictates this.
OMG, please tell me that you know the Old Testament anchors both Christianity and Islam and that it calls for the destruction of the infidel.
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:17 am to PurpleandGeauld
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Our Constitutional rights are being watered down to nothing.
Your perceived religious rights are being challenged and refuted. The Constitution guarantees you the right to practice your Christian religion, but those rights have boundaries. You exist in a nation that guarantees the same rights to all citizens. You are not entitled to special treatment.
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Freedom of speech is being replaced by freedom from being offended.
Freedom of speech in this country has never been greater than it is at this moment. The Westboro Baptist Church and hate preachers prove that.
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Freedom to bear arms, by freedom to flee.
To where are you going to flee that has greater access to guns than right here in the good ole USofA? There ain't no place.
I own a Glock 45, a 357 Magnum and a Mossberg 500. Kentucky has very liberal gun laws.
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Freedom of religion, by freedom to be anything but Christian
If you folks would understand that you're not the only people entitled to live in this country, you wouldn't feel so paranoid all the time. Get along with your fellow non-Christian Americans. They won't bite you.
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We are allowing it one exception to the rule at a time.
And there it is. The Christian rule is different than the American rule. You have to follow the American rule while in America. All of us do.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:35 am to GnashRebel
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Remember, the Constitution is there to protect your rights, not to condone your actions. Just because your actions are protected does not make them moral, right, or just.
Um, okay. And you should remember that morality is personal. One person's morality might be another person's sin. It's Constitutional rights that we must all respect, not some individual's idea of morality.
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Legal protection for perverse activity doesn't make it any less perverse.
Perversity is in the eye of the beholder. Most people think of religious oppression as perverse. I think megachurches are perverse. Hate preachers and the Westboro Baptist Church are perverse. The Constitution gives us the right to decide for ourselves what is perverse.
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Americans still have the right to look down upon anybody they want to. Remember that Constitution you were celebrating earlier?
As usual, you missed that little word, legally.
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Yet countries that espouse atheism fare little better. USSR, China, etc. I wonder if they were better defenders of human rights than the US Christian right? Maybe people are the problem.
The Christian Right are defenders of human rights? Remember when we were talking about getting to define perverse for ourselves?
The creeds of totalitarianism practiced by the old USSR and China under Mao are strikingly similar to the blatant denial of human rights that the Christian Right has championed for decades.
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Bear in mind that many terrible leaders have wrapped themselves in the flag.
And even more have cloaked themselves in the cloth of religion.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:59 am to Kentucker
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The onus is upon you to prove your point, not to tell someone to research an accusation himself.
NBC News discusses Islam curriculum in Texas
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Deliberately importing? Oh, the buzzwords of the extreme right.
680,000 Muslim Immigrants under Obama
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So, are you saying that the extreme religious right has moved Muslims above sexual minorities as the greatest threat to America? That's a radical paradigm shift.
Actual Christians =/= extreme religious right, but yes they are the greatest threat by far. Actual Christians are not going to lop off your head with a sword if you are not inclined to convert.
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Whoa there, fella! The power of Christianity has limits? How dare you!
Actual Christians understand that faith is a free will choice, not one made by force or under duress of any kind.
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OMG, please tell me that you know the Old Testament anchors both Christianity and Islam and that it calls for the destruction of the infidel.
This is the age of grace, we are not under old testament law (which was only an illustration of how impossible it would be to "earn" your way into heaven). You don't sacrifice animals when you do something bad nowadays.
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