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Need some opinions on work drama
Posted on 5/17/16 at 6:23 am
Posted on 5/17/16 at 6:23 am
I am a second level manager at my company. One of my subordinates and I had a healthy and professional work relationship/friendship. In our company, we keep everything relaxed and not too corporate. We would discuss sports, the job, miscellaneous things in our free time and would help one another with odd jobs that required multiple person help. I have also had worker appreciation days and have given incentive bonuses for hard work. I have went above and beyond all requirements.
Well as of yesterday, my boss (regional manager) called me to inform me (on a personal level amongst he and I) that he wanted to warn me that he had received a call from my subordinate. My subordinate claims that I am unprofessional and arrogant and that he does not care to work for me. My boss got my side of our history and just suggested that I distance myself and that he was on my side.
Why in a matter of 24 hours would he betray me after I have gone above and beyond my job requirements to treat my employees with respect and with reward?
What should I do?
Well as of yesterday, my boss (regional manager) called me to inform me (on a personal level amongst he and I) that he wanted to warn me that he had received a call from my subordinate. My subordinate claims that I am unprofessional and arrogant and that he does not care to work for me. My boss got my side of our history and just suggested that I distance myself and that he was on my side.
Why in a matter of 24 hours would he betray me after I have gone above and beyond my job requirements to treat my employees with respect and with reward?
What should I do?
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 6:26 am
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 6:33 am to South Alabama Tide
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Why in a matter of 24 hours would he betray me
Don't take it this personal. That's all I've got.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 6:36 am to South Alabama Tide
Did you boss give anymore detail than:
How old is the subordinate?
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My subordinate claims that I am unprofessional and arrogant and that he does not care to work for me.
How old is the subordinate?
Posted on 5/17/16 at 6:45 am to South Alabama Tide
Your subordinate is acting like a Kardashian. He is weak and immature and behaves like a middle schooler.
Listen to your boss. Distance yourself from him and figure out why you were so easily duped after spending so much time with him.
Learn something from this experience. Learn how to read people better or it will happen again.
Listen to your boss. Distance yourself from him and figure out why you were so easily duped after spending so much time with him.
Learn something from this experience. Learn how to read people better or it will happen again.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 6:59 am to South Alabama Tide
Don't do anything with the subordinate. He went outside the chain of command. You'll get in more trouble if you initiate a conversation with him, especially since your manager gave you an unofficial heads up. You and the sub have a new normal now. Setup new boundaries and act accordingly.
Going forward, don't have a close relationship with your subordinates.
Oh yea, and people are crazy. Who knows why they do what they do.
Going forward, don't have a close relationship with your subordinates.
Oh yea, and people are crazy. Who knows why they do what they do.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 7:01 am to South Alabama Tide
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Need some opinions on work drama
Let it go
Just do what you have to do and the rest will work itself out.
Or if you absolutely have to talk to someone about it, be a man and talk to your subordinate face to face. But even that is a little risky. So I'd stick to just doing what you need to do and let the rest work itself out.
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 7:25 am to South Alabama Tide
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Why in a matter of 24 hours would he betray me after I have gone above and beyond my job requirements to treat my employees with respect and with reward?
He wants your job.
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What should I do?
Start treating him like shite so he'll quit. Your boss has your back it sounds like, so that's the good news. frick that slimy, backstabbing subordinate though.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 7:57 am to South Alabama Tide
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What should I do?
Call a meeting and tell all of the employees that there are no more bonuses, worker appreciation days and from this day forward you're going to treat everyone equally shitty. When they ask why, tell them that 1 of them is a whiney bitch and that person stabbed you in the back.......unsuccessfully.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:02 am to South Alabama Tide
Could have been anything under the sun that changed on your subordinate's end. It sucks, especially if you really were just being friendly/cool with him.
But your responsibility now is now to get to the bottom of his barrel and "fix" any problems. Like others have said, set up boundaries around him now that you have some insight as to what his new status quo is.
Also, don't let one random incident change how you work with others. If it's worked for you so far, just chalk it up to this guy being an outlier and move on
But your responsibility now is now to get to the bottom of his barrel and "fix" any problems. Like others have said, set up boundaries around him now that you have some insight as to what his new status quo is.
Also, don't let one random incident change how you work with others. If it's worked for you so far, just chalk it up to this guy being an outlier and move on
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:14 am to BluegrassBelle
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Did you boss give anymore detail than:
He just said if you can't come up with specifics other than your opinions then there's nothing I can say or do to him. He backed me up and basically said that's his management style, but if he does anything to you worth noting, then yes do call me.
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ow old is the subordinate?
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How old is the subordinate?
40? 10 years older than me.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:15 am to SECdragonmaster
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Listen to your boss. Distance yourself from him and figure out why you were so easily duped after spending so much time with him.
Learn something from this experience. Learn how to read people better or it will happen again.
We will find out today how he reacts to the distance. We usually chat as we both pull into work.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:17 am to auisssa
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Don't do anything with the subordinate. He went outside the chain of command. You'll get in more trouble if you initiate a conversation with him, especially since your manager gave you an unofficial heads up. You and the sub have a new normal now. Setup new boundaries and act accordingly. Going forward, don't have a close relationship with your subordinates. Oh yea, and people are crazy. Who knows why they do what they do.
He undermined me. It's honestly can be documented verbal correction to his file by company policy. It'll be interesting today when I go into work.
And agreed. I would have almost bet my life that this guy was genuine.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:22 am to South Alabama Tide
Could be that your Manager is taking steps of his own to ensure that the nature of your relationship with your subordinate is more about being professional than being a Friend.
It could be that he knows by giving you a "heads up" and private show of support that he is endearing himself to you.
It's not likely but its not out of the realm of what is possible.
It could be that he knows by giving you a "heads up" and private show of support that he is endearing himself to you.
It's not likely but its not out of the realm of what is possible.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:22 am to The Spleen
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he wants your job.
I have 50+ employees underneath me at 3 different locations. My regional manager is basically the head dog of our branch of accounts. I am 2nd highest in chain. After my boss, it's the CEO. He isn't qualified to get my job. Outside the company is the only place they could find someone to fill my role.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:23 am to Wtodd
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meeting and tell all of the employees that there are no more bonuses, worker appreciation days and from this day forward you're going to treat everyone equally shitty. When they ask why, tell them that 1 of them is a whiney bitch and that person stabbed you in the back.......unsuccessfully.
You think they'd be able to pick him out?
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:25 am to TbirdSpur2010
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But your responsibility now is now to get to the bottom of his barrel and "fix" any problems. Like others have said, set up boundaries around him now that you have some insight as to what his new status quo is.
Yep. As others said. Distance myself. Agreed
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Also, don't let one random incident change how you work with others. If it's worked for you so far, just chalk it up to this guy being an outlier and move on
It got to me. I'll be honest. It did. I usually have thick skin but the blind side woke me up. No vindictive behavior or retaliation but everything will be done by the book from here on out. I mean the BOOK
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:26 am to Rounder1
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Could be that your Manager is taking steps of his own to ensure that the nature of your relationship with your subordinate is more about being professional than being a Friend.
It could be that he knows by giving you a "heads up" and private show of support that he is endearing himself to you.
It's not likely but its not out of the realm of what is possible.
I'll be able to tell you for sure after today
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:29 am to South Alabama Tide
Fair enough. For whatever reason he doesn't think your qualified for the job you have. Whether that means he thinks he is, who knows. The age difference probably has something to do with it as well. He made a play to get you out of your position, and it has apparently backfired on him. So just know he's the one that looks bad in this and go about your job and distance yourself from him. About all you can do.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:32 am to The Spleen
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Fair enough. For whatever reason he doesn't think your qualified for the job you have. Whether that means he thinks he is, who knows. The age difference probably has something to do with it as well. He made a play to get you out of your position, and it has apparently backfired on him. So just know he's the one that looks bad in this and go about your job and distance yourself from him. About all you can do.
You're right. Distance and stay the course.
I've been a manager for a while now, but this was just such a blind sided situation, I just did not know where to start. It's so odd and confusing. I get too wrapped up in my accounting work and probably should keep a closer eye on interaction amongst all of my subordinates.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:34 am to The Spleen
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My boss got my side of our history and just suggested that I distance myself and that he was on my side.
Do what the boss said.
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