re: Member when Obama was elected and people thought racist, white people

Not sure if serious

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I may not agree with a conservative but if I don't then at least they'll generally hear out what I have to say, respectfully listen and present their side of the argument.

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You've never been to the poliboard, have you.

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2- Catholics are not all Christians, and Catholicism is not Christianity. There are some Catholics who may be Christian, just like there are Baptists and those in protestant religions. The Pope is very Catholic

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Uh...this is wrong. Catholicism is a Christian religion. All Catholics, including the Pope, are Christians. I don't know what your definition of Christianity is but its not the one that everyone else uses.

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Catholicism is a Christian religion.

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I won't debate whether catholics are Christian, I'm personally unclear on that but I don't know enough to make that determination.

I will say though that Christianity is not a religion at all. Christianity is a relationship with God/Christ that is individual. There are groups of Christians that call themselves things like Baptists, Presbyterians, etc, but those are just groups of people who meet together. Christianity is a personal thing for each person.

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When this country had white racists? Were you born yesterday? This country is still filled with racists, and the overwhelming majority are white.

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This is absolutely the truth. Yeah racism isn't nearly as bad as it once was in the 1900's but there is still plenty of racism, and towards different groups.


Hell on Tigerdroppings there is at LEAST one monthly thread being deleted and a ranter being banned because they said something stupidly racist, often toward their own damn players.

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I love how people still think that the Democrats were the only political party that was overwhelmingly racist. You don't think the Republicans had a large number of open racist as well? Or are you actually admitting that the Deep South was the most racist region in the country, because guess where the Dems were the strongest for over a century?

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Sure, the Republican party of old had plenty of racists, as did every party at the time of the civil war. The difference is that the majority of the Republicans of the time were abolitionists who abhorred slavery, whereas almost ZERO democrats, particularly Union democrats, supported abolition.

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Catholicism was the 1st church. There wouldn't be any other denominations without Catholicism.

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NOPE. Actually Catholicism came about after Jesus formed the first church. LOL... Peter, Paul, John, etc... were not catholic. They were, however, Christians. To say all religions which implement Christ into their doctrine came from Catholicism is pure ignorance. Not all of these type religions are protestant (which means they were formed during the reformation, when they protested out of the catholic church over errant catholic doctrine). Baptists, for example, were never part of the catholic church. The catholics actually named them "Anabaptist". This was later shortened to "Baptist". There are critical differences in the two. Catholics believe that in baptism, a person is essentially saved. This is why it is done at the earliest time possible. Later on, you must perform several sacrements and confession to gain entrance to heaven. The Anabaptists have a big problem with this because baptism is not done to gain salvation, but rather as a symbol of salvation obtained from a humbling and understanding of our need for it, accepting the truth of Christs sacrifice for us on the cross, and asking for forgiveness privately from God himself... gaining a personal relationship with Christ. It all has to do with who gives salvation. the Bible says it is only obtained through Christs grace and our faith or belief in him. There is no other action we can do to obtain our salvation. Catholicism is all about "things" we have to do (and do over and over) to obtain and keep our salvation.

James, the brother of Jesus and pastor of the church in Jerusalem put it very succinctly when he addressed the issue. He basically said to some people he was debating doctrine with that "You try to show me you are saved THROUGH your good works, but I do good works BECAUSE (or, as a result of) my salvation."

....anyway, I could go on and on with critical doctrinal differences involving Mary, Priests, praying and paying loved ones out of hell, etc..., but there are significant differences, which caused a rift in the catholic church leading to protest out of it and the protestant religions to align doctrine more to the Anabaptist doctrine more so than the catholic.

...and before I get slaughtered for saying all catholics are not saved, I will again say that I am not judging anyone. Salvation is a very personal thing, and no man can know the true heart of another based on the religion they ascribe to. It's all about a man knowing his need for God and humbling himself before God, asking forgiveness for sin and believing Jesus died for them and is the ONLY way for salvation and redemption.

And when a person is saved, they are a Christian. No matter what religion or doctrine the align to. That is why I said in an earlier post that Catholicism is NOT Christianity in itself. Christianity is obtained through salvation, so it is a person-by-person label based on being born again in Christ. Christian means "Christ-like". A person cant be Christ-like with unforgiven sin in their life. Jesus offered that gift of forgiving our sin by taking it on himself when he gave himself on the cross. So, if a person chooses to receive that gift and accepts Christs salvation, he/she therefore becomes saved and a Christian.

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Catholicism was the 1st church. There wouldn't be any other denominations without Catholicism.

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That's not true at all. Go read Acts 2.

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love how people still think that the Democrats were the only political party that was overwhelmingly racist. You don't think the Republicans had a large number of open racist as well? Or are you actually admitting that the Deep South was the most racist region in the country, because guess where the Dems were the strongest for over a century?

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Lincoln and Republicans split from Whigs over slavery. all of the racist legislation from Lincoln on was supported by Democrats both in the south and north.

as the south became less racist, it became more Republican.

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ALL Catholics are Christians

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You can't say that.

I don't say that to shite on Catholics, protestants need to learn to respect where they came from and that all denominations have something to respect. I've come to learn that some of the greatest believers in Christ are Catholics, but they are not all believers. No denomination's followers are all going to heaven.

That's foolish.