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re: Mayweather vs McGregor

Posted on 3/24/17 at 10:05 am to
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/24/17 at 10:05 am to
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FM will punch and run for 12 rounds like he always does and go home to count money.


McGregor likely won't last three.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 2:05 pm to
It's a boxing match, Mayweather will win. I mean c'mon, if it were an MMA fight, I would hope to God people would say McGregor.

ETA: I honestly don't think either cares about the outcome. They're going to rake in the cash regardless.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 2:07 pm
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:12 pm to
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McGregor has no shot whatsoever,

Maybe
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other than a wild haymaker that connects by some miracle.

There you go.
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McGregor like the bitch he is

What? Dude is a freak man. One of the best fighters on the planet right now.
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He's 5'9" 155 pounds.

Walk around weight is probably closer to 170ish obviously has had fights in higher classes.
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They're both pipsqueaks

CM would likely kick anyone posting on TD in the head before we saw what was coming.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 3:20 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:35 pm to
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McGregor has no boxing talent to speak of


McGregor is a world talent striker in general. He has excellent timing and a strange style with power to boot. Him being a super aggressive Southpaw is wholeheartedly a change of pace for Mayweather.

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He's not. He's 5'9" 155 pounds. Mayweather is 5'8" 151 pounds. They're both pipsqueaks.


He's also got 2 inches of reach on Mayweather.

Similarly, if you knew anything about boxing, you'd know 4 pounds is a frickton, and that's before cutting weight. That's an entire other weightclass in boxing.

Mayweather not feel comfortable fighting at that weight, but McGregor is pretty large for his division and could probably even fight at 170 if he really wanted to. He has a large frame, big shoulders and strong legs with outstanding cardio.

Winning in two weightclasses is significantly more difficult in the UFC (it's only happened one time in the entire history of the sport simultaneously, and McGregor is the one responsible for it).

He's larger and has a reach advantage, more physical than anyone Mayweather has fought and has a very strong chin. Good luck with Mayweather's pillowhands.
Posted by CowTownReb
Member since Jan 2013
353 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 4:26 am to
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Mayweather is like a Mongoose v. a striking snake. Dances around, throws a couple punches, and either waits for the opponent to get tired or he works his stats for the decision.


It's how Leonard beat Duran.

There was absolutely no lead on those punches by Leonard. He'd end each round with a flurry, and those patty-cakes were enough to carry him.

Duran was the very definition of machismo. He was solid in each of his weight classes, but he's the greatest lightweight that's ever lived in my book. 62-1.

Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:21 am to
If McGregor is super aggressive he will just chase Mayweather around and be worn out in the later rounds. I would be very surprised if he won. Of course there is always a chance but I won't be betting on McGregor.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:58 pm to
shite, I'd put 100 on McGregor for that payout which is being pushed by a bunch of boxing purists.

McGregor has the tools to have a surprise win and maybe even a flash knockout. The odds are well against him, and he probably has less than a 10 percent chance of winning -- but it is certainly a possibility and that percent could change drastically with several conditions.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29176 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:52 pm to
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You can also stop saying McGregor is much bigger. He's not. He's 5'9" 155 pounds. Mayweather is 5'8" 151 pounds. They're both pipsqueaks.


McGregor can, and has, fought at 170... In fact he beat Nate Diaz at 168...
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:55 am to
You just essentially agreed with most people with the less than 10% chance comment
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:38 pm to
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has fought heavier fights
YOu mean when he fought another fellow LW? Nate Diaz is a lightweight, period! Don't let little Dana trick you into believing otherwise.

McGregor maintaining cardio, isn't going to change a thing. Plus Floyd has fought bigger guys as well and has superior boxing, which McGregor doesn't have.
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9201 posts
Posted on 4/2/17 at 11:19 am to
I'm just here to say that Mayweather is a great boxer. Definitely makes the comes-to-mind short list. But those who say greatest of all time or even one of I ask.
Who the frick has Mayweather fought? Hatton and Pacquiao, who were both at the end of their careers, are the only ones imo. The Mayweather Pacquiao fight was practically handicapped too.

Most technical boxer of all time. I'd say so. Most intelligent? Sure.
Posted by The Stranger
Member since Apr 2017
25 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:45 pm to
The finite technical movements that give boxing the 'sweet science' name are impossible for McGregor to build into his movement language at this point in his life, especially when facing the absolute master of such a nuanced language.

This is 1,000% a money grab for both men. An awesome spectacle. Nothing more.

As a big Conor believer there's zero chance Floyd is going to go 49-1 with a loss to a non-boxer. That just isn't going to happen.

Both men and all involved 'win' if it's a relatively entertaining event resulting in a Mayweather victory - which is what will likely happen.

If people want to talk about Conor's abilities, a more appropriate and reasonable argument would be that he truly can beat Khabib, which was borderline laughable before his dismantling of Eddie and Micheal Johnson tagging Khabib with a left.



Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:20 am to
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As a big Conor believer there's zero chance Floyd is going to go 49-1 with a loss to a non-boxer. That just isn't going to happen.


It's weird that people say things like this, because there have been a lot of times in different sports all across the spectrum that people have said this.

Things that people don't realize:

1. McGregor is in a parallel sport, not a completely irrelevant sport. MMA utilizes boxing techniques quite a lot and McGregor is literally known for his boxing in the UFC.

2. McGregor is probably the biggest fighter Mayweather is going to fight, and a Southpaw.

3. He's knocked people out who have fought over 15 pounds heavier than Mayweather. Knocked another one down several times in the same fight.

4. He's over 10 years younger than Mayweather.

5. He's got two inches of reach on Mayweather.

6. He has a background in grappling, meaning Mayweather's famous clinch is not going to help him, and I doubt he catches McGregor as often as pure boxers.

7. Mayweather hasn't knocked someone out (for real) since 2007, ten years ago. Sucker-punching guys isn't a real knockout.

8. McGregor is probably going to fight like Maidana, but being a Southpaw (like Judah, who honestly rocked Mayweather several times) he is going to come in a different way than normal boxers and his angles are different from his spacing.

That being said, Mayweather should and probably will win, but to say ''that just isn't going to happen'' is just the kind of shite that gets people knocked the frick out.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 6:53 am to
Ya that sucker punch was totally not a sucker punch. Dude hit mayweather with a low blow they tapped gloves as an apology and ref said fight on, dude didn't keep his gaurd up wanted tap gloves again and not pay attention or some bullshite. What is Mayweather supposed to do not hit him? Keep your fricking gloves up in the ring, do the look sideways at the ref and pay attention if you don't wanna get knocked the frick out. Not even some big mayweather fan but he absolutely shoulda have drilled that guy I'm that moment.

A sucker punch in boxing in the middle of a round??? Get outta here with that weak shite.

Also you are really agreeing with everyone, it's just that of course anything can happen in sports. Most people just don't feel the need to caveat a 5% chance of something crazy happening when talking.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 6:55 am
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 12:48 pm to
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Ya that sucker punch was totally not a sucker punch.


It was a sucker punch. Hitting someone with their hands down while they don't expect it is 100% what a sucker punch is. It's the only knockout awarded to Mayweather in ten years after Hatton and that's not a good look.

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A sucker punch in boxing in the middle of a round???


Yep, like going to touch gloves and someone throws at you -- that's how sucker punches work.

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Also you are really agreeing with everyone,


All but the percentage.

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Most people just don't feel the need to caveat a 5% chance of something crazy happening when talking.





It's not that crazy or extraordinary to think a younger, stronger, bigger fighter in a related field could come in and connect with one left uppercut on a fighter who is older, weaker, smaller and fighting with multiple fractures in both hands.

Gonna be a harder fight than people expect, and it's mostly boxing purists who think McGregor is going to just come in and behave like a typical boxer when he's probably going to mimic more like Maidana -- and he just happens to be larger (by two inches) longer (by 5) and heavier (by eight pounds).

So a guy that's bigger, stronger, faster, longer and smarter than Maidana is going to fight Mayweather. Good luck, boxing world.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:00 pm to
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Ya that sucker punch was totally not a sucker punch.


It was a sucker punch. Hitting someone with their hands down while they don't expect it is 100% what a sucker punch is. It's the only knockout awarded to Mayweather in ten years after Hatton and that's not a good look.



You can't sucker punch someone who is in a boxing ring while the fight is going. Dude is an idiot to not expect to be it. Its like me saying "I swear to everything holy i am going to hit you in five second" and then you turning your head and getting hit and calling it a sucker punch. I can't control your expectations...

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yep, like going to touch gloves and someone throws at you -- that's how sucker punches work.



Had already touched gloves after the other dude's low blow. Fight was back on - dropping your gloves for a touch for no reason doesn't mean the other person has to do the same.


- You yourself gave it a less than 10% chance when this topic was first brought up in a post above on this page. That is essentially saying it would be pretty crazy if McGregor actually won.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 1:31 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 7:02 pm to
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You can't sucker punch someone who is in a boxing ring while the fight is going. Dude is an idiot to not expect to be it. Its like me saying "I swear to everything holy i am going to hit you in five second" and then you turning your head and getting hit and calling it a sucker punch. I can't control your expectations...


https://youtu.be/rJwCWO0EhJA?t=329

You are literally the only person on the planet I've ever heard try to argue that it wasn't a cheap shot/sucker punch. Ortiz was clearly trying to apologize and Mayweather took advantage of the moment.

It's cool, you don't think there's anything wrong with that, but don't be a fricking idiot.

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- You yourself gave it a less than 10% chance when this topic was first brought up in a post above on this page. That is essentially saying it would be pretty crazy if McGregor actually won.



I also said that it could raise with several factors -- if they fight at a lower weightclass it will be nearly impossible for McGregor to cut the weight.

Depending on Mayweather's mindset, gameplan and other factors, that percentage could raise significantly. If you just look at raw, purist information (like most boxing enthusiasts who don't watch MMA or have never practiced in either art) sure.

But if McGregor takes the Maidana approach, Mayweather might get bullied irreversibly -- and that's what my bet is. McGregor may even do some dirty boxing (as he has no intention to return to boxing after) and may even take Mayweather down just to frick with him.

I do know one thing: If Maidana/Judah can rock Mayweather, McGregor for sure can.

Saying ''pure boxing'' and then expecting it Mayweather to fight as a ''pure boxer'' is kind of stupid if you ask me.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:40 pm to
And just for more flavor -- McGregor will have the most height, weight and reach over Mayweather's opponents.


McGregor is 5'9'' with 74'' reach.

Berto - 5'6'' with 68.5''.
Pacquiao - 5'5'' with 67''.
Maidana - 5''7'' with 69''.
Álvarez - 5'9'' with 70.5''.
Guerrero - 5'9'' with 70''.
Cotto - 5'7'' with 67''.
Ortiz - 5'9'' with 70''.
Mosley - 5'9'' with 70''.
Márquez - 5'7'' with 67''.
Hatton - 5'7'' with 65''.
Oscar de la Hoya - 5'10'' with 73''.

So what am I trying to point out? Mayweather has deliberately picked guys with lesser reach, lesser height and almost unilaterally lesser weight.

McGregor, on an average is 2 inches taller and has over 5 inches of reach. The one fighter that put Mayweather away (Hoya won that fight, everyone knows) did not fit the paradigm and even worse? Mayweather has looked far worse against Southpaws.

The difference? McGregor can actually hit Mayweather when Mayweather can't hit him. It's going to be a lot more interesting than you'll admit.

ALSO, even FURTHER:

McGregor has fought someone who had 4'' reach. 4'' height and 23 pounds advantage of Mayweather and knocked him down successfully three times.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 9:52 pm
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:57 pm to
Mayweather will dance around him all night and when every round on the score cards. Mcgregor's face will look bad at the end of the night from all the punches.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 12:46 am to
other opinion

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Ortiz seemed embarrassed by his boorish behavior and began to apologize profusely. But he did protest too much. First, he leaned over and kissed Mayweather on the cheek. Then, after Cortez signaled that the break was over, Ortiz put out his arms as if to hug Mayweather. First, there's a rule in boxing that you're told the first time you step in the ring — the first time I strapped on my headgear in a Philadelphia gym, my handler slammed me on the shoulder, looked me in the eye, stuck a finger in my face and said, "Remember, protect yourself AT ALL TIMES!". And "all times" means exactly that.


The rule in boxing is no punches during a referee's break, but it doesn't say anything about after the break. (Was Mayweather supposed to trust that Ortiz wasn't going to butt him again or throw a punch instead of giving him a hug?)
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 12:47 am
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