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Man dies while in Tuscaloosa police custody

Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:55 am
Posted by Ted2010
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:55 am
He wasn't shot or tasered; OC spray was used.I hope this doesn't turn into to Ferguson or Baltimore.

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Facebook video at the hospital with police guarding the entrance. NSFW language.

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Searched didn't see anything. Sorry if posted already.

This post was edited on 7/13/15 at 3:59 am
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 5:08 am to
Ferguson and Baltimore won't happen in the south
Posted by rb
Georgia
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 6:33 am to
Let's interview the woman he chocked out and raped and get her opinion on this incident?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 6:34 am to
Yup, we've had to police shootings and only had minor protests in Atlanta.
This post was edited on 7/13/15 at 6:35 am
Posted by 3nOut
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 6:38 am to
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Ware, who is black





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he resisted arrest.




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TPD had a warrant to charge Ware for attempting to elude police. Ware was arrested in September after a woman told officers that he choked her until she was unconscious, sexually assaulted her and stole her 2011 Honda Accord. The woman recanted that statement in a letter that is included in the court documents. A judge denied his request to dismiss the case, which was pending when he died. In 1999, Ware was arrested for shoplifting a pair of shorts and fighting officers at the Parisians store at University Mall. Court records indicate that he resisted arrest and that officers used pepper spray. He also had convictions for second-degree assault, escape, drug possession and drug trafficking.



Posted by JamalSanders
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 6:40 am to
Gotta love reading the comments
Posted by ehole
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 7:12 am to
Cops fricking suck like that. They murdered a kid locally by masking him and spraying him april of 2013... Best part was when he was complaining he couldn't breathe, "if you can talk, you can breathe." Official cause of death, homicide via asphyxiation, no pigs fired either. Kid was a white btw.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 7:44 am to
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Cops fricking suck like that. They murdered a kid locally by masking him and spraying him april of 2013... Best part was when he was complaining he couldn't breathe, "if you can talk, you can breathe." Official cause of death, homicide via asphyxiation, no pigs fired either. Kid was a white btw.


Link?
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 7:56 am to
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Cops fricking suck like that. They murdered a kid locally by masking him and spraying him april of 2013... Best part was when he was complaining he couldn't breathe, "if you can talk, you can breathe." Official cause of death, homicide via asphyxiation, no pigs fired either. Kid was a white btw.


Link or gtfo.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 7:57 am to
frick off
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 8:08 am to
From the comments:

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Why did he run???? WAs he guilty of something??? Maybe he should not have run and just let them cuff him . That would have been the simple soluation instead of running and acting guilty..


Too much logic in this statement.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/13/15 at 9:02 am to
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Ferguson and Baltimore won't happen in the south


That's ridiculous. It could easily happen in the south.

It won't happen in this instance though as it does appear the Tuscaloosa Police is doing all they can to get as much info out to the public in a timely manner. Ferguson and Baltimore were fueled by the police not releasing much info.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:21 am to
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Let's interview the woman he chocked out and raped and get her opinion on this incident?


She withdrew her complaint. Prosecutors did not drop the case; I guess they had other evidence in this matter.
Posted by ehole
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:25 am to
Posted by ehole
in a house
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:26 am to
Double post...
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 9:28 am
Posted by ehole
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:36 am to
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frick off




We all know your favorite part of the job is terry frisking any adolescent, male minority you can get your hands on.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:54 am to
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Cops fricking suck like that. They murdered a kid locally by masking him and spraying him april of 2013... Best part was when he was complaining he couldn't breathe, "if you can talk, you can breathe." Official cause of death, homicide via asphyxiation, no pigs fired either. Kid was a white btw.


Unsurprisingly, the facts provided in your links don't back up your post.

The officers were completely and inexcusably wrong for not summoning help, but they did not (by even the admission of your anti-cop link) mask him and then spray him. Further, the autopsy result says he choked on his own secretions. So you might make a case for manslaughter based on the failure to render aid, but in no way does the case rise to the level of a murder charge.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:09 am to
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Daniel's life wasn't always easy and like a lot of teenagers, he made mistakes. On March 2 of last year, Daniel apparently smoked the popular, and once legal, "spice."

"He made a choice to use synthetic marijuana," says his mom, Valerie Linsinbigler, "and it landed him in jail."

Apparently suffering some kind of psychotic break, Daniel entered two apartments at the Stay Suites inn in Orange Park. Without permission -- or any clothes – police say he charged into two apartments, yelling Bible scriptures and proclaiming he was Jesus


The occupant of the cell next to him, blaming the police for everything:



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Linsinbigler had been in jail for more than a week and, according to Farr, wanted to make a written request to see his attorney. But while deputies apparently gave him the form, they would not give him anything to write with. He was on suicide watch. No pencils allowed.

According to Farr, the guards didn't just deny Linsinbigler. They mocked him.

"They were all making fun of him," Farr told investigators with the Clay County Sheriff's Office. "They were calling him a Jesus freak, a God freak … [teasing him] about his religious beliefs: 'God cant' help you now. God can't give you a pencil."


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Jail employees didn't mention teasing in their interviews with investigators from either the Florida Department of Law Enforcement or CCSO Internal Affairs. But all agree that at some point, Linsinbigler's agitation grew physical. He began kicking and punching his cell door. A later autopsy found only "minor abrasions" on his hands, but officers said they were concerned for his safety.

"We really believed he was going to hurt himself," Clay County Deputy Rodney Houldson told investigators in a recently concluded Internal Affairs investigation.




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From the articles I read, sounds like it was an awful outcome to an unfortunate situation. It also sounds like the kid was out of control.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:38 pm to
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From the articles I read, sounds like it was an awful outcome to an unfortunate situation. It also sounds like the kid was out of control.


Yep. Very far from a 'police murder'.
Posted by ehole
in a house
Member since Nov 2010
3373 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:46 pm to
So, at about 8:30 that morning, according to all accounts, officers entered his cell, subdued him with pepper spray and strapped him into a restraint chair. The order to use pepper spray, according to officers, came from Sergeant Robert Heaps. Deputy Houldson complied with the order, but told investigators he didn't agree with it.

"I did not want to even spray this guy," he told Internal Affairs. "I didn't need to. I'm a big guy, controlling this guy was not going to be an issue for me at all. He was a fragile guy as it was."

Immobilized in the chair, with nylon straps tight across his arms, legs and chest, Linsinbigler began to produce a large volume saliva and mucus – a reaction to the pepper spray. To prevent getting contaminated by the fluids, officers covered his head with a nylon and mesh hood – a so-called "spit mask."

What happened next depends on who's talking. At least three inmates say Linsinbigler began pleading for help.

According to Farr, in the cell next door, "He started complaining that he was having chest pains: 'I can't breathe, I can't breathe, get this hood off. I'm going to behave … Just let me get some air I have to be able to breathe.'"

Inmate John Jarvis, in an adjacent cell, gave a similar account. "He was begging to have [the hood removed], gasping, saying I can't breath[e]." (Jarvis says one officer responded, "If you can talk, you can breathe.")

Accounts from corrections officers differ. None recalled hearing Linsinbigler begging for help, though his chair was outside the guard station, in the middle of the cellblock. None of the officers recalled specifically what he said in his final hour. All say he was monitored every 15 minutes, as required by jail policy.

Shortly after 9 am, Linsinbigler stopped yelling and moving. His eyes and mouth hung open, his skin turned ashy gray. Corrections officers removed him from his chair and began CPR. When that failed, they called 911. Despite those efforts, Linsinbigler was unresponsive. He was taken to Orange Park medical center where he was declared dead.


Straight up sounds like a code red was ordered on Santiago, if I'm using pop culture references
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