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John Oliver on Televangelist

Posted on 8/17/15 at 8:44 am
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 8/17/15 at 8:44 am
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I feel terrible for the people dumb enough to throw money away to churches/pastors like that.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 8/17/15 at 8:46 am to
Sorantable throws money at Twinkies. Worse investment, imo.
Posted by FleshEatingSalsa
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:40 am to
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I feel terrible for the people dumb enough to throw money away to churches/pastors like that.


I'd be willing to be John Oliver does more to help people with the money he raises than most, if not all, of the churches he mentioned. For the record, these "Pastors" have been the bane of many Christians for years. We realize what horrible damage they do, and how they drag down the name of Christ, but all you can do is try to steer people away from that.

Here's a song by Christian artist Steve Taylor from back in 1993 that's apropos: Cash Cow
Posted by Chazzy McRamzee
Member since Jun 2014
2681 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:42 am to
He should have gone after Joel Osteen. He's the worst one of disguising himself as a pastor.
This post was edited on 8/17/15 at 9:43 am
Posted by Wtodd
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:55 am to
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He should have gone after Joel Osteen. He's the worst one of disguising himself as a pastor

Creflo says hello
Posted by Chazzy McRamzee
Member since Jun 2014
2681 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:58 am to
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Creflo says hello


Creflo is in the minor leagues compared to Osteen.
Posted by FleshEatingSalsa
Floating down the Anduin
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12293 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:01 am to
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He should have gone after Joel Osteen. He's the worst one of disguising himself as a pastor.


I have my own issues with him, but he's not the worst by any reasonable standard. He does not take a salary from his pastoral role, and he does not actively solicit money from the pulpit. His wealth is almost exclusively from his books and other speaking appearances.

I don't believe he represents what a pastor should be, but he's not nearly the worst.

Posted by Chazzy McRamzee
Member since Jun 2014
2681 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:02 am to
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I have my own issues with him, but he's not the worst by any reasonable standard. He does not take a salary from his pastoral role, and he does not actively solicit money from the pulpit. His wealth is almost exclusively from his books and other speaking appearances.

I don't believe he represents what a pastor should be, but he's not nearly the worst.



I will disagree based on the number of people he is leading astray compared to others.
Posted by FleshEatingSalsa
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Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:24 am to
He is a motivational speaker. And he's making a lot of money doing it. But there's a stark difference between what he does and the others who are asking for money and promising wealth and healing in return. Osteen doesn't do that.

Tilton and Dollar and those guys deserve a place in hell. I just can't say the same about Osteen.
Posted by Chazzy McRamzee
Member since Jun 2014
2681 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:29 am to
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He is a motivational speaker.


Disguising himself as a minister. He's a snake in the weeds. It's harder for people without a solid foundation in theology to see the snake compared to a Tilton or Dollar. Osteen does more damage to Christianity than the others.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:33 am to
Televangelists define creepy.

Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:37 am to
This post was edited on 8/17/15 at 10:49 am
Posted by BamaChemE
Midland, TX
Member since Feb 2012
7137 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:44 am to
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I'd be willing to be John Oliver does more to help people with the money he raises than most


If you read the fine print when making a donation to Our Lady of the Perpetual Exemption. It states that they will probably "shut it down in the near future, at which point all assets will be donated to Doctors Without Borders"

So yeah. He's showing how crooked these snakes are while legitimately donating it to help people in actual need.
Posted by Chazzy McRamzee
Member since Jun 2014
2681 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:49 am to
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Osteen preaches one side of the gospel. Just like everyone else.


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:51 am to
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Here's a song by Christian artist Steve Taylor from back in 1993 that's apropos: Cash Cow


One of my favorites.
"Guilty By Association," "On the Fritz" and "Easy Listening" are others where he took a swipe at pay-to-play Christianity.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:52 am to
You don't really know how any of this works, do you?
Posted by DarthRebel
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Member since Feb 2013
21231 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:52 am to
I was laughing so hard when he busted out the letters he had.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70890 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:01 am to
What's sad is that there are plenty of other pastors out there NOT on TV who also take advantage of their members. My mom went to a non denominational church when I was a kid. I remember it was the pastor and his wife that led sermons. Both drove Mercedes and lived in a huge house in a very nice area.

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Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.” Matthew 19:21


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It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.” Marl 10:25


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"But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction." 1 Timothy 6:9



Say what you want about pastors enjoying the blessings God has given them. But I find it odd and untrustworthy.

This post was edited on 8/17/15 at 11:03 am
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48697 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:26 am to
I still call myself a Christian but all organized religion seems odd and untrustworthy sometimes.
Posted by ehole
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Member since Nov 2010
3373 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:37 am to
Taxpayers get raped for money for rebelgator's job... an even worse investment
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