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Interesting Read re: CIA involvement in "cover-up" of JFK assassination
Posted on 10/11/15 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 10/11/15 at 7:55 pm
Interesting article about the director of the CIA, John McCone, and his inaccurate, misleading testimony to the Warren Commission. Basically, some declassified documents show that back before Kennedy's death, the CIA (at his direction) actively worked with the Mafia on plots to assassinate Fidel Castro. Lee Harvey Oswald had ties to Cuba, and in fact met with Cuban officials in Mexico City some time before Kennedy's assassination. Had the Warren Commission been made aware of this, they would have investigated whether the Cuban government had involvement in Kennedy's assassination, in retaliation for our plots to kill Castro. But McCone, never provided any info, and the possible link was never investigated.
Basically, the CIA withheld info from the Commission, who never explored this possible link. This was the "best truth" for the public. McCone worked closely with the Johnson administration and talked with Robert Kennedy several times in the days following the assassination in Dallas. Robert Kennedy apparently always thought the Cubans were behind John's death.
Anyway, interesting read.
JFK Assassination article
Basically, the CIA withheld info from the Commission, who never explored this possible link. This was the "best truth" for the public. McCone worked closely with the Johnson administration and talked with Robert Kennedy several times in the days following the assassination in Dallas. Robert Kennedy apparently always thought the Cubans were behind John's death.
Anyway, interesting read.
JFK Assassination article
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:00 pm to semotruman
Hot sexy Magma 
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:23 pm to semotruman
Interesting indeed.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:10 pm to semotruman
Yeah, the Cigarette Smoking Man shot him from the underground drainage hole on the side of the road.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:12 pm to semotruman
Didn't the Marcello's in New Orleans have something to do with this?
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:29 pm to Mstate
Jack Kennedy was the last President to stand up against the Military Industrial Complex, Carter tactfully delayed - but they were so wounded after Vietnam they couldn't do much.
Reagan wanted to, but came out of that hospital a different man. A Man scared of the government he lead he started CCWing.
LINK
Reagan wanted to, but came out of that hospital a different man. A Man scared of the government he lead he started CCWing.
LINK
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:56 pm to semotruman
The fact that so many people don't believe in conspiracies is alarming to me.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:19 pm to Mstate
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Didn't the Marcello's in New Orleans have something to do with this?
The Marcello's are a "connected" family, right? The article wasn't that specific. But Politico is a pretty reputable source. I just found it really interesting. They were so worried about the public finding out that the government conspired with organized crime to take out a foreign leader that they misled the group investigating the assassination of a sitting president. And fed the country a story that's been doubted for 50 years.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:21 am to Mstate
Carlos Marcello had a huge issue with RFK regarding his unconstitutional deportation. Jimmy Hoffa's disdain for the Kennedy's dated back to Senate Hearings about the Teamsters Union prior to JFK becoming President. I believe that Carlos Marcello, Jimmy Hoffa and Santo Trafficante conspired to kill JFK and used Lee Harvey Oswald to achieve their ends, either as a shooter or a patsy. I believe that these men then had Jack Ruby (a known Marcello associate) kill Oswald to silence him. I believe that our government has obfuscated the truth on this matter to prevent the public from knowing that they actively colluded with the Mafia to try and have Castro killed.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:47 am to SCLibertarian
Don't forget your dying King. Read what Mr. Kennedy told us. From his own mouth!
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings......For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed......I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people. For I have complete confidence in the response and dedication of our citizens whenever they are fully informed.....with your help man will be what he was born to be: free and independent".
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings......For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed......I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people. For I have complete confidence in the response and dedication of our citizens whenever they are fully informed.....with your help man will be what he was born to be: free and independent".
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:55 am to SCLibertarian
Oswald lived in New Orleans prior to settling in Dallas. Or briefly moved to New Orleans at some point, forget the actual timeline. It is believed he "concocted" his plan to kill JFK while in New Orleans, so your theory may be accurate. I certainly don't think Oswald acted alone.
Ruby's involvement is odd, and I'm trying to remember why. It's been a while since I read an Oswald biography. I found his story the most fascinating part of it, but I can't rememebr why now. Dman old age.
Ruby's involvement is odd, and I'm trying to remember why. It's been a while since I read an Oswald biography. I found his story the most fascinating part of it, but I can't rememebr why now. Dman old age.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 10:01 am to Tropic Lightning
Eisenhower's famous departing speech about the industrial military complex, Trumans op-Ed about the CIA - Kennedy had to act. His predecessors saw what was coming but were either too weak or too compromised to do anything.
Our Enlightenment, our American Experiment died that day in Dealey Plaza.
Sure the Mafia was involved but that is only to the extent that they were leveraged by the USFEDGOV.
Jack Ruby, formerly known as Jack Rubenstein, had been in the employment of the government since WW2. Look it up.
Frank Sheeran says he delivered rifles to David Fairy and believes those rifles were used by a CIA / Mafia kill team on JFK.
Research Oswald. If that's not the most grotesque example of intelligencia detante, I don't know what is.
To close the circle former career CIA analyst Ray McGovern says an associate of his asked President Obama why he isn't doing more for the American people and stopping this foreign policy madness - and President Obama reportedly said rather candidly "didn't you see what they did to Kennedy."
Our Enlightenment, our American Experiment died that day in Dealey Plaza.
Sure the Mafia was involved but that is only to the extent that they were leveraged by the USFEDGOV.
Jack Ruby, formerly known as Jack Rubenstein, had been in the employment of the government since WW2. Look it up.
Frank Sheeran says he delivered rifles to David Fairy and believes those rifles were used by a CIA / Mafia kill team on JFK.
Research Oswald. If that's not the most grotesque example of intelligencia detante, I don't know what is.
To close the circle former career CIA analyst Ray McGovern says an associate of his asked President Obama why he isn't doing more for the American people and stopping this foreign policy madness - and President Obama reportedly said rather candidly "didn't you see what they did to Kennedy."
Posted on 10/12/15 at 10:18 am to semotruman
quote:If you haven't already, I HIGHLY recommend reading "Dr. Mary's Monkey."
Basically, some declassified documents show that back before Kennedy's death, the CIA (at his direction) actively worked with the Mafia on plots to assassinate Fidel Castro. Lee Harvey Oswald had ties to Cuba, and in fact met with Cuban officials in Mexico City some time before Kennedy's assassination.
It centers around a New Orleans lab coming up with a cancer virus to kill Castro and Oswald's connections with it.
There are also Youtube videos about it.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 10:25 am to Tropic Lightning
quote:It's also interesting that Daddy Bush is the only living human being who can't remember where he was or what he was doing when JFK was assassinated, although sources have placed him in Dallas that day.
Jack Kennedy was the last President to stand up against the Military Industrial Complex, Carter tactfully delayed - but they were so wounded after Vietnam they couldn't do much.
Reagan wanted to, but came out of that hospital a different man. A Man scared of the government he lead he started CCWing.
It's also interesting the connections between the Bush family and the Hinckley family. Daddy Bush's son (Neil) had dinner plans with Hinckley's brother. Apparently the families were friends.
I agree, even though the assassination attempt failed, Daddy Bush's presidency began that day.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 10:34 am to TX Tiger
Man, that Bush - Hinckley stuff is new to me. I just glanced at a quick google search.
Talk about the more you know the less you understand...
Talk about the more you know the less you understand...
Posted on 10/12/15 at 10:36 am to TX Tiger
Didn't Bush have some connection to Oswald's friend, George De Mini-something, as well?
Posted on 10/12/15 at 10:42 am to The Spleen
quote:Don't know about that one, but nothing would surprise me about the Bush family.
Didn't Bush have some connection to Oswald's friend, George De Mini-something, as well?
From gramps funding the Nazis all the way down the line, that family is some piece o' work.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 10:46 am to The Spleen
Below is a link to declassified minutes from April 22, 1961. Three days after Bay of Pigs....dude, just read the names of the people in this meeting.
PARTICIPANTS
Study Group Members
General Maxwell D. Taylor
Attorney General Robert Kennedy
Admiral Arleigh Burke
Allen W. Dulles
Department of Defense
Major General David W. Gray
Colonel C. W. Shuler
Commander Mitchell
CIA Personnel
General C.P. Cabell
C. Tracy Barnes
Colonel J.C. King
Jacob D. Esterline
[name not declassified]
Colonel Jack Hawkins
JFK was basically a walking dead man in 1958.
LINK
PARTICIPANTS
Study Group Members
General Maxwell D. Taylor
Attorney General Robert Kennedy
Admiral Arleigh Burke
Allen W. Dulles
Department of Defense
Major General David W. Gray
Colonel C. W. Shuler
Commander Mitchell
CIA Personnel
General C.P. Cabell
C. Tracy Barnes
Colonel J.C. King
Jacob D. Esterline
[name not declassified]
Colonel Jack Hawkins
JFK was basically a walking dead man in 1958.
LINK
Posted on 10/12/15 at 10:47 am to TX Tiger
I have to admit, the Kennedy assassination has always fascinated me. I never believed the Warren Commission findings of a sole gunman, acting alone. It was just too well executed (no pun intended) for that. Then, Ruby killing Oswald the way he did, that screamed of conspiracy to me.
I'm going to have to check out some of the stuff mentioned in this thread.
I'm going to have to check out some of the stuff mentioned in this thread.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 11:03 am to semotruman
quote:I feel the same about 9/11. I never believed the commission report, the incredible amount of simultaneous catastrophic failures it would have taken for it to happen the way they said it did.
I have to admit, the Kennedy assassination has always fascinated me
Then add in the profits to be made in Afghanistan coupled with the dictators going rogue over there that needed to be taken care of....9/11 just seemed far too convenient for a great many powerful people.
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