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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:50 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35907 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:50 pm
Anyone else catch this documentary this past Tuesday? Fascinating and frightening look at Israel's Prime Minister.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:50 pm to
Netanyahu is a boss. No fricking with that dude.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20460 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:54 pm to
Screw that guy. What's the opposite of a mensch?
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35907 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 11:07 pm to
My problem with the Likudists is simple: Israel in 22nd in GDP per capita, has a world class military and, despite its denials, is stocked with nukes. Why then should the U.S. send its sons and daughters to fight and die in a war against Iran, when Israel has proven time and time again the ability to defend itself? Did Netanyahu send Israeli troops to Afghanistan and Iraq to assist us? I bet he laughs at us being suckered by AIPAC and the rest of the Israel Lobby.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4011 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 12:57 am to
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Why then should the U.S. send its sons and daughters to fight and die in a war against Iran, when Israel has proven time and time again the ability to defend itself?


Because we don't really have a choice. They have us over a nuclear barrel because they simply can't sustain a serious war with anyone for very long without us, or resorting to nukes.

So the answer to your question is "to avoid a nuclear war".

It's just that simple. Doesn't mean they're bad guys or good guys. They're just guys who are definitely not going out without firing off their arsenal. And they'll do it early as tactically as possible so it doesn't come to that.

Once that candle is lit, well...
Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 8:36 am to
Exactly. Yeesh.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 10:05 am to
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Did Netanyahu send Israeli troops to Afghanistan and Iraq to assist us? I bet he laughs at us being suckered by AIPAC and the rest of the Israel Lobby.


It's sad that you don't understand the special relationship we, the British and other European allies have with Israel.

We will never again abandon the Jews to be slaughtered wholesale by an insane population.

We won't abandon the homeland of the Jew who became Christ, the Messiah.

We will not allow Jerusalem, the capital of Israel, to be controlled by anyone but Jews.

We will not allow the extinction of Israel, the motherland of Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

We don't allow Israel to support any of our military or economic efforts in the Middle East because of our tenuous relationships with Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and other allies in the region. They would jump at the chance to help us but that would cause big problems with our Muslim allies.

Israel is our staunchest ally along with Great Britain. They will do anything we ask of them, short of risking their own existence by laying down their arms.

History has proven that a Jew who isn't willing to fight is a dead Jew.
This post was edited on 1/9/16 at 10:07 am
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 10:11 am to
^ that.

I watched a show where he was followed for a day. Very interesting man. Walked the streets like a regular guy. Thought him personable.
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 10:22 am to
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We won't abandon the homeland of the Jew who became Christ, the Messiah.



This is one of the bigger problems I personally have with supporting them. Too many christians seem to think that we have to do whatever it takes to save these people because theyre God's chosen people.

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They will do anything we ask of them


What exactly have they done for us? Or could it be said that the other way around is more accurate?
This post was edited on 1/11/16 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 10:32 am to
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Too many christians seem to think that we have to do whatever it takes to save these people because their God's chosen people.


Yes, that's true. Also, Jesus is considered to be the bridge between the chosen people and Christians.

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What exactly have they done for us? Or could it be said that the other way around is more accurate?


Anything they do for our military, and I think it's frequent, has to be done on the down low. For example, Israel does intense drone research and shares their technology with us.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37553 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 10:53 pm to
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Anyone else catch this documentary this past Tuesday? Fascinating and frightening look at Israel's Prime Minister.


I watched it and it was just what I expected from the far left wing progressive socialist public broadcasting system Obama lovers.

Obama hates Bibi ... so NPR and PBS hates Bibi, plain and simple.

We should completely defund PBS. They are a left wing shill and they exist, for the most part, thanks to our tax dollars.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37553 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 11:36 pm to
What you typed, Kentucker, is exactly correct.

Posted by Rockbrc
Attic
Member since Nov 2015
7893 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 11:40 pm to
Gonna go buy some State of Israel bonds after watching him.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37553 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 11:42 pm to
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Anything they do for our military, and I think it's frequent, has to be done on the down low. For example, Israel does intense drone research and shares their technology with us.


They also provide the great majority of the intelligence, that we need, out of the middle east. They've got people scattered all over the place throughout Africa and the middle east as well as China and most of southeast Asia.

They are everywhere in construction and banking among other global industries.



Posted by beachreb61
Long Beach, MS
Member since Nov 2009
1715 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 11:45 pm to
Israel wants to take care of the situation. We won't let them. It is seriously that simple.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 9:26 am to
Mossad makes the CIA look like a kid with training wheels on his bike.
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 9:53 am to
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They are everywhere in construction and banking among other global industries.



So they have industry that's lucrative when wars go on?
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 9:57 am to
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Anything they do for our military, and I think it's frequent, has to be done on the down low. For example, Israel does intense drone research and shares their technology with us.



Perhaps thats true, but again, I'd say a lot of our tech gets shared with them first. Obviously a lot of Jews are to thank for our innovations over the years. I think they are good allies to have over there, I just hate the lengths we go to with them, and as I mentioned, the religious aspect is downright silly imo.
Posted by jackmanusc
Columbia, SC
Member since Apr 2012
3947 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 11:01 am to
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Too many christians seem to think that we have to do whatever it takes to save these people because their God's chosen people.


Yes, that's true. Also, Jesus is considered to be the bridge between the chosen people and Christians.



I think you mean Saul of Tarsus, who was the bridge between Jews and Christians.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 12:00 pm to
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Perhaps thats true, but again, I'd say a lot of our tech gets shared with them first. Obviously a lot of Jews are to thank for our innovations over the years. I think they are good allies to have over there, I just hate the lengths we go to with them, and as I mentioned, the religious aspect is downright silly imo.



There are less than 15 million Jews worldwide. About 6.5 million of them live on a speck of land, Israel, that is one fifth the size of Kentucky. As many Jews live in America as do in Israel.

On all sides of their tiny country reside some 200 million Muslims, many of whom are dedicated to the destruction of Israel. Jews living in Israel must be constantly prepared for war.

The small number of Jews in the world reflects thousands of years of persecution and slaughter of this tiny minority. In effect, evolutionary survival of the fittest has produced the most intelligent group of people on earth. Einstein, for example, the greatest intellect ever to live, was a product of this selection process.

We can say that Judaism, because of this shaping by human evolution, is more than a religion now. Selection for intelligence has produced a people who have to be one step ahead of their enemies at all times to survive.

I personally think this is why technology is advancing at break-neck speed here in the 21st century. Discoveries in physics are so frequent that it is nearly impossible to follow every development.

Jewish intellect is at the heart of these discoveries. Their contributions to science, in all areas, are indispensable.

I think, while it's horrible how it happened, the inadvertent eugenics forced upon the Jews over the past few thousand years is a positive for the human species as a whole.


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