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Fifty Shades of Neurological Rewiring

Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:12 pm
Posted by MrTide33
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:12 pm
Neurological consequences of BDSM

I found the read interesting.

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With BDSM, a person is fusing distinct neural networks that were meant to operate separately.

Human beings have neural networks related to sexual behavior, and these are shaped in subtle ways by our sexual experiences. We have separate neural networks related to anger and aggression, and these are shaped and strengthened when people engage in violent or domineering behaviors. We have still more separate brain maps for fear and anxiety, which are shaped and reinforced by frightening or anxiety-provoking experiences.

So these neural networks and these experiences normally remain distinct—unless our experiences begin to fuse them together. When this fusion happens, the brain gets confused. And this is exactly what happens when people experiment with sadomasochistic sexual practices. These distinct neural networks and brain maps become fused according to Hebb’s principle: neurons that fire together wire together. Once this happens, aggression automatically triggers sexual arousal. Or fear and anxiety automatically trigger sexual interest. When this fusion of neural networks becomes pronounced, people often will present to the psychiatrist with clinical problems. Patients complain, for example, that they cannot get aroused unless they get aggressive or violent. Or they complain that they become involuntarily aroused whenever they experience fear. Once these distinct neural networks are fused, the person is—at the level of the brain—literally tied down.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:17 pm to
Meh, plenty of folks are able to have sex that way and be perfectly healthy.

It's all about knowing your own limits and those of your partner, tbh. Seen too many folks the past few weeks try to demonize bdsm because of what just hit the cinemas and it's kinda silly
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:21 pm to
My ex S/O and I were pretty adventurous and we drew the line at BDSM. Honestly, the people we knew who were into it were pretty weird and couldn't be turned on without some rape fantasy or pain/pleasure tactic.

Rape fantasies are very common in women but I'm not sure it's wise to stray too far across that boundary.
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:23 pm to
You sound very knowledgeable on the subject.

50 Shades of TBird
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:23 pm to
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It's all about knowing your own limits and those of your partner, tbh. Seen too many folks the past few weeks try to demonize bdsm because of what just hit the cinemas and it's kinda silly


And that 50 Shades shite isn't exactly what is considered BDSM.

Psychologically, I'm sure porn does the same depending on the intensity in which you view it/consume it. As with anything it's about moderation.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:24 pm to
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50 Shades of TBird


Dark reading



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Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:25 pm to
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that 50 Shades shite isn't exactly what is considered BDSM.


This is quite true.

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Psychologically, I'm sure porn does the same depending on the intensity in which you view it/consume it. As with anything it's about moderation.


This common sense might be too much for laypersons to handle, Belle
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:26 pm to
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Psychologically, I'm sure porn does the same depending on the intensity in which you view it/consume it. As with anything it's about moderation.


To some extent, yeah. Nothing wrong with experimenting or watching porn but making it a normal part of the routine can cause issues later.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:27 pm to
Meh.
Posted by PrivatePublic
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:32 pm to
50 shades is based on a twilight fanfic.

seriously.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:40 pm to
Ya, my porn addiction has really been detrimental to my heroin consumption lately. I need to find the proper balance.
Posted by MrTide33
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:46 pm to
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Seen too many folks the past few weeks try to demonize bdsm because of what just hit the cinemas and it's kinda silly


Just to note, I do not know the differences between everything involved in BDSM and whatever's involved in 50 shades, I just used that title since that's a hot topic recently.

The biggest concern would be to what extent sexual arousal, anger, and fear really intertwine. If they do, that could become a very bad thing.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:48 pm to
Fear boners are already a documented phenomenon
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:53 pm to
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The biggest concern would be to what extent sexual arousal, anger, and fear really intertwine.


Like with any sexual act, it's all about consent and knowing each other's limits and comfort zones.

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I do not know the differences between everything involved in BDSM and whatever's involved in 50 shades, I just used that title since that's a hot topic recently.


Not to nitpick on you, but that's really the problem. People don't know much about the subject, but want to speak on it.

There's varying degrees. What was represented in the movie really barely scratched the surface. And truthfully, most people who dabble in it don't take it very far. It's just a gambit to get off, like roleplaying or cosplay. Just like it'd be a problem if, say, one started believing their "role" a little too literally, the same restraint has to apply to those who engage in BDSM. And like I said, most know pretty inherently where those boundaries lie.

The folks who have a problem blurring the lines of restraint and reality would likely have the same problems with other sex methods, imo.
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:57 pm to
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Dark reading





Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

The biggest concern would be to what extent sexual arousal, anger, and fear really intertwine. If they do, that could become a very bad thing.


I do think it's worth noting how many variables can influence/distract from that happening though.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

It's just a gambit to get off, like roleplaying or cosplay. Just like it'd be a problem if, say, one started believing their "role" a little too literally, the same restraint has to apply to those who engage in BDSM.



Yup.

Dated a girl in college for a bit that was into some rather uncommon stuff, but she was perfectly normal.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:59 pm to
Rebelgator was in a German Schizer video
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:01 pm to
I'm afraid to google that.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:02 pm to
You should be
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