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E-Cigarettes And The Bizarre Fear Mongering
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:56 pm
Nation Review: The Anti E-Cigarette Conspiracy
You would think big tobacco would be concerned, but no. Apparently anti-cancer organizations are against people not inhaling smoke into their lungs anymore. I really do feel like the whole world has gone fricking crazy sometimes.
Thoughts from the masses?
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Yet, in a perverse inversion of public-health policy, these devices face relentless opposition — and not from Big Tobacco, whose interests seemingly are most threatened by the switch from cigarettes to e-cigarettes. Rather, it is the official public-health agencies, such as the CDC and the FDA, and the big health nonprofits, such as the American Cancer Society and the American Lung Association, that are fighting this public-health miracle. Even worse, they are using tactics akin to the deceptions and manipulations we recall from the cigarette makers of the 20th century. One of their more egregious tactics is simply redefining the words “tobacco” and “smoke” to include e-cigs, which are linked to neither. The question is: Why? One thing is certain: Their antipathy is not based on science or the good of public health.
You would think big tobacco would be concerned, but no. Apparently anti-cancer organizations are against people not inhaling smoke into their lungs anymore. I really do feel like the whole world has gone fricking crazy sometimes.
Thoughts from the masses?
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:01 pm to Duke
It's pretty clear, really. E-cigs are good for you and cure some illnesses.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:03 pm to Duke
Maybe the people who are most opposed to e-cigs don't REALLY want cancer to decrease? 
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:04 pm to Dawg in Beaumont
I didn't want to be the first cynical a-hole to suggest that. Thanks for doing it early. 
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:05 pm to Duke
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Cigarettes
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:08 pm to Duke
This makes no sense
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:13 pm to Duke
Several states are already outlawing e-cigs in bars. "Vaping" is the new buzzword.
Even though there is no smoke, therefore there's no secondhand smoke, only harmless water vapor. But, They look like cigarettes, kinda, so they gotta go, think of the fricking children for God's sake.
Even though there is no smoke, therefore there's no secondhand smoke, only harmless water vapor. But, They look like cigarettes, kinda, so they gotta go, think of the fricking children for God's sake.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:15 pm to Duke
Big Tobacco is preparing for the legalization of Weed.
They will dominate
They will dominate
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:21 pm to Vols&Shaft83
The self righteousness of the anti smoking crowd, much like MADD get way to sweated up in their campaign and throw logic out the window. I heard an MD on NPR last week saying something to the effect of 'we have to assume tobacco products are dangerous until proven otherwise.'
Great. You know what this vapor doesn't have? Benzene. Guess what does? Cigarette smoke. Better to scare people into thinking they are equally bad for you and attempt to take them off the market.
Great. You know what this vapor doesn't have? Benzene. Guess what does? Cigarette smoke. Better to scare people into thinking they are equally bad for you and attempt to take them off the market.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:21 pm to SDVTiger
I always assumed that Philip Morris owned Millions of acres of cannabis and factories in Mexico preparing for the weed legalization.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:24 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I suspect the same.
Only thing I worry about when vaping is whats heating it up?
Sometimes taste like butane but I could just have a shitty pen
Only thing I worry about when vaping is whats heating it up?
Sometimes taste like butane but I could just have a shitty pen
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:24 pm to Duke
Personally I think the anti e-cig campaign is about getting tax revenue by labeling them as a tobacco product.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:25 pm to SDVTiger
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Only thing I worry about when vaping is whats heating it up?
It's a battery connected to a resistor.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:27 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Personally I think the anti e-cig campaign is about getting tax revenue by labeling them as a tobacco product.
Well of course it is from the Government end.
The American Cancer Society has no stake in that game though. It's almost as if they are worried if cancer rates start dropping some of their funding would dry up. That can't be it though, can it?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:30 pm to Duke
The American Cancer Society is against it because there is strong evidence that e-cigarettes are more likely to hook previously non-smokers onto a "safe" form of nicotine and lead to smoking than to help current smokers wean themselves off.
The concern is that it will lead to a spike in smokers as the younger generation gets hooked on nicotine through a sort of "gateway" form of smoking.
The concern is that it will lead to a spike in smokers as the younger generation gets hooked on nicotine through a sort of "gateway" form of smoking.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:30 pm to Duke
So no butane to the lungs? Thank goodness.
My friend owns Blow Hookah an E Hookah that you can vape in clubs and strip clubs.
This crap might ruin his company
My friend owns Blow Hookah an E Hookah that you can vape in clubs and strip clubs.
This crap might ruin his company
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:30 pm to Duke
Well, it should be pretty clear that it's never been about "health" for the moral crusaders; it's entirely about telling other people what to do.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:34 pm to Duke
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The American Cancer Society has no stake in that game though. It's almost as if they are worried if cancer rates start dropping some of their funding would dry up. That can't be it though, can it?
Same reason Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton keep bringing up racism. If racism goes away, they cease to exist.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:40 pm to Roger Klarvin
Define "strong evidence" for me. How many studies are backing that up?
It would be a surprising conclusion that would fly in the race of reason. People switching to the stuff that we know causes cancer because...
If you have the science to back it up, I'd reconsider my position. It's just such an illogical conclusion I can't take it seriously without some extensive studies to verify.
It would be a surprising conclusion that would fly in the race of reason. People switching to the stuff that we know causes cancer because...
If you have the science to back it up, I'd reconsider my position. It's just such an illogical conclusion I can't take it seriously without some extensive studies to verify.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:43 pm to Duke
I haven't read the research, I only know because a lot of the research into the efficacy of e-cigarettes is going on here in Houston at MD Anderson and the medical schools and it gets a lot of pub within the field.
I'm just repeating what I've been told by others involved in it, I don't really have an opinion o them.
I'm just repeating what I've been told by others involved in it, I don't really have an opinion o them.
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