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re: Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:58 am to GeeOH
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:58 am to GeeOH
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LOL......you mean like the hole on the ozone bruh? You realize the ones who need you to believe this lose their jobs if you don't, right?
The ozone hole is not the threat it once was. Thankfully, enough governments, especially the U.S. believed the dire data coming from NASA and other agencies that monitor the atmosphere.
Restrictions were placed on manufacturing that included chloroflorocarbons (CFCs) and the ozone began to repair itself immediately.
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Posted on 5/27/16 at 11:26 am to Kentucker
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The effect of higher CO2 levels on Venus Flytraps and other carnivorous plants is fascinating. The insect population may decline somewhat because of their increased presence.
Was actually telling my girlfriend the other day that we might have to start buying some and waiting for them to get bigger.
Also we have had a few nearly die from eating too much. (Had to quarantine them.)
Posted on 5/27/16 at 11:27 am to Kentucker
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The effect of higher CO2 levels on Venus Flytraps and other carnivorous plants is fascinating. The insect population may decline somewhat because of their increased presence.
Was actually telling my girlfriend the other day that we might have to start buying some and waiting for them to get bigger.
Also we have had a few nearly die from eating too much. (Had to quarantine them.)
Posted on 5/27/16 at 11:28 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Even carnivorous plants can suffer the negative effects of obesity.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 12:20 pm to UKWildcats
Plant more plants, obviously.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 10:01 am to Volatile
It is just that simple. Plants use CO2. MORE plants use MORE CO2. It isn't rocket science. All the climate change hypocrites like Gore explain away their extravagant lifestyles by "offsets". Planting a few trees or pushing a cap and trade system where the proceeds for "carbon credits" go to companies they own.
There have been times when the atmosphere had much higher levels of CO2 than now. And it"recovered". HOW did this happen?
Explain to me how the planet knows the difference between taxed and untaxed CO2. or Third World and US CO2. All this entire load of crap amounts to is theft. Another "wealth redistribution" "risky scheme".
Anything the Left is selling, I am not buying. The UN..Al Gore. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. There isn't a shred of honesty in the entire bunch.
There have been times when the atmosphere had much higher levels of CO2 than now. And it"recovered". HOW did this happen?
Explain to me how the planet knows the difference between taxed and untaxed CO2. or Third World and US CO2. All this entire load of crap amounts to is theft. Another "wealth redistribution" "risky scheme".
Anything the Left is selling, I am not buying. The UN..Al Gore. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. There isn't a shred of honesty in the entire bunch.
This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 10:06 am
Posted on 5/28/16 at 11:23 am to antibarner
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There have been times when the atmosphere had much higher levels of CO2 than now. And it"recovered". HOW did this happen?
I don't think you read the whole thread before commenting. Otherwise you'd know that the earth has mechanisms for removing CO2 from the atmosphere. It takes a very long time for this to happen, of course.
You'd also know that CO2 is not the only pollutant that humans are putting into the atmosphere faster than the earth can remove them. That's the crux of the issue.
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Explain to me how the planet knows the difference between taxed and untaxed CO2. or Third World and US CO2. All this entire load of crap amounts to is theft. Another "wealth redistribution" "risky scheme".
Anything the Left is selling, I am not buying. The UN..Al Gore. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. There isn't a shred of honesty in the entire bunch.
The politicization of atmospheric pollution is stupid. The left and the right seem to make everything a political issue.
There are some things better left to science. Left-wingers and right-wingers should stay the hell out of these issues.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 12:33 pm to Kentucker
CO2 is a natural product of the environment.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 1:50 pm to GeeOH
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CO2 is a natural product of the environment.
This arsenic is all-natural and therefore drinking it is good for you and will not result in horrible pain and death.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 3:43 pm to GeeOH
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CO2 is a natural product of the environment.
It's also a by-product of human use of fossil fuels. Nature can handle the amount being produced by volcanoes and animal respiration. It can't handle the amount being produced by human industry, at least without human help.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 11:30 pm to Kentucker
Excuse me? ONE volcano can pump more gas into the atmosphere than we can.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 11:33 pm to Kentucker
The problem with that is the science is NOT settled. Get the ripoff artists like Gore and the UN out of the way and it would help your cause.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 12:03 am to antibarner
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The problem with that is the science is NOT settled. Get the ripoff artists like Gore and the UN out of the way and it would help your cause.
Ignore them. Pay attention to what the vast majority of researchers are saying. Among them, rejecting AGW is as plausible as rejecting germ theory.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 12:14 am to antibarner
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Excuse me? ONE volcano can pump more gas into the atmosphere than we can.
It can, but let's compare the annual numbers:
Volcanoes emit around 250 million tons of CO2 per year.
Humans are currently emiting around 30 billion tons of CO2 per year.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 8:15 am to antibarner
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...it would help your cause.
I don't have a cause. We're just discussing here.
The science is very settled. The earth is warming both naturally and because of human industry and other activities.
It's some politicians that still debating the issue. Earth scientists involved in climate research are unanimous and unequivocal in their statements that human activity is adding CO2 and other pollutants to the atmosphere faster than the earth can eliminate them and that human help is needed.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 8:17 am to Bigbens42
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Ignore them. Pay attention to what the vast majority of researchers are saying. Among them, rejecting AGW is as plausible as rejecting germ theory.
^This. Listen to science and not politicians of any ilk.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 2:10 pm to Kentucker
There are a lot of them that do NOT buy into the theory. Scientists cannot even predict the weather over more than a week or so, yet we are supposed to base policy and drastically change the way we live over this? Back a couple of decades or so they claimed we were cooling, and now instead of calling it Global Warming they have repackaged things and now call it Climate Change.
In this very thread I have seen said that if something is not done soon the changes will be irreversible, yet when I pointed out that CO2 levels have been much higher in Earth's history than now I was told the Earth can take care of it over time. Irreversible?
No. I would not trust the UN and the proponents of this theory if they told me the sun will rise tomorrow. They have an agenda and it is not to our benefit.
In this very thread I have seen said that if something is not done soon the changes will be irreversible, yet when I pointed out that CO2 levels have been much higher in Earth's history than now I was told the Earth can take care of it over time. Irreversible?
No. I would not trust the UN and the proponents of this theory if they told me the sun will rise tomorrow. They have an agenda and it is not to our benefit.
This post was edited on 5/29/16 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 5/29/16 at 4:15 pm to antibarner
You need to stop listening to politicians on the left or right. Politicians don't know shite about the environment and care even less.
Are you so extreme in your worldview that you couldn't see the qualified "irreversible" that I used? The qualification is that the levels will get so high that some flora and fauna that are adapted to present conditions will die out because of the quick change we're experiencing. We are very near that tipping point and may not be able to reverse the trend before great damage is done.
That quick change is human caused. Yes, the earth can remove an extreme amount of carbon from the atmosphere but it could take eons as it has in the past.
No one here is asking you to accept anyone's word on this. I personally listen to the scientists at NASA, NOAA and other agencies that have a vested interest in knowing what's happening to our earth.
frick politicians. They're power hungry creeps who would shoot their mothers if they thought that would advance their schemes.
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In this very thread I have seen said that if something is not done soon the changes will be irreversible, yet when I pointed out that CO2 levels have been much higher in Earth's history than now I was told the Earth can take care of it over time. Irreversible?
Are you so extreme in your worldview that you couldn't see the qualified "irreversible" that I used? The qualification is that the levels will get so high that some flora and fauna that are adapted to present conditions will die out because of the quick change we're experiencing. We are very near that tipping point and may not be able to reverse the trend before great damage is done.
That quick change is human caused. Yes, the earth can remove an extreme amount of carbon from the atmosphere but it could take eons as it has in the past.
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No. I would not trust the UN and the proponents of this theory if they told me the sun will rise tomorrow. They have an agenda and it is not to our benefit.
No one here is asking you to accept anyone's word on this. I personally listen to the scientists at NASA, NOAA and other agencies that have a vested interest in knowing what's happening to our earth.
frick politicians. They're power hungry creeps who would shoot their mothers if they thought that would advance their schemes.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 4:54 pm to Kentucker
NASA is nothing more nowadays but a social experiment. Taken over by Obama hacks.
All the so called solutions that I have seen are either UN income redistribution scams or ask the United States to bear the lions share of the burden.
As I said earlier, the atmosphere cannot tell the difference between taxed and untaxed greenhouse gas, nor can it differentiate between Third World, Indian , Chinese and Brazilian gases and those from the US.
All the so called solutions that I have seen are either UN income redistribution scams or ask the United States to bear the lions share of the burden.
As I said earlier, the atmosphere cannot tell the difference between taxed and untaxed greenhouse gas, nor can it differentiate between Third World, Indian , Chinese and Brazilian gases and those from the US.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 8:07 pm to antibarner
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NASA is nothing more nowadays but a social experiment. Taken over by Obama hacks.
Wow. How on earth do you see an agency like NASA...
Well, you don't seem to be interested in seeing global warming from a moderate point of view. Are you so young that you don't remember America when moderates ruled?
Such a shame. I'd hate to get up every morning thinking I was a supporter of one of the two extremes that have polarized this nation.
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All the so called solutions that I have seen are either UN income redistribution scams or ask the United States to bear the lions share of the burden.
While that was the theme of the Copenhagen conference on global warming several years ago, it went nowhere. Thank goodness it's dead.
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As I said earlier, the atmosphere cannot tell the difference between taxed and untaxed greenhouse gas, nor can it differentiate between Third World, Indian , Chinese and Brazilian gases and those from the US.
No, but humans can. It's incumbent upon all of us to help nature by slowing our injection of pollutants into the environment, especially the atmosphere. This moderate view is having a good effect on China, less so on India.
China is actively changing its manufacturing to minimize the amount of pollutants going into the atmosphere. More pressure needs to be applied to India so that they also see what they're doing to the environment.
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