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Breast Cancer Awareness in Football. Think Pink

Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:22 am
Posted by disagreeber
Member since Oct 2014
319 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:22 am
My mothers childhood best friend recently died two monthes ago from Stomach Cancer. She was such a good woman that was dealt a horrible blow in life. She died in absolute pain. When talking to my mother - She was heartbroken. She asked me - "why doesnt anyone want recognize other cancers besides breast? Is it because its about the breast?"

This resonated with me.

Before I begin, I am no way telling you that I do not support breast cancer awareness -my grandmother is actually a survivor of breast cancer. I just dont like it in football. I dont like the pink socks, or the coaches wearing the pink ribbons, or the dash of pink here and there on the unis to show they care. I just think it fails. Its more viewed as a fashionable item and I suppose the cancer patients much rather you actually donate towards research. Since NCAA or NFL cant support every cancer, just dont be selective with one, just leave it out completely.

I wish that businesses and multi billion dollar corporations would realize that there is other cancers out there that never get recognition. Testicular cancer for instance, attacks more men then breast cancer does women - So.. where is the dark blue ribbons for this?

Brain cancer awareness? Skin cancer awareness?

Im not asking anyone to dump ice water on their heads to support a specific cause. Just keep it out of football. If you do something, then actually do it. I donate to wounded warrior and SIDS research. Not much, but I do what I can.

RIP Amanda.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:23 am to
I've wondered this several times myself. I think its just that err'body loves tittays.

I personally think Prostate cancer needs more support. I think a big starfish symbol would work brilliantly.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86428 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:24 am to
odd post for the SEC Rant.
Posted by disagreeber
Member since Oct 2014
319 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:28 am to
Just pondering. Theres enough post about Will Muschamp. Ya know?
Posted by Kritten
Athens, Ga
Member since Sep 2014
1594 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:31 am to
My opinion on pink, and I work with two breast cancer survivors, is that is is now too commercialized. A way for Nike and UnderArmor to sell you something in the name of charity.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 9:32 am
Posted by BoudreauxinGA
Member since Aug 2007
942 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:33 am to
Your stats are way off. Breast cancer affects about 1 in 8 American women. Think about it (1 in 8).Gastric cancer is relatively rare, except for in Japan. Testicular cancer is not common and no where near the incidence in our population of breast cancer.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10148 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:36 am to
We talked about this in my marketing class last year (at least in regards to the NFL)

The average viewer is aging. The NFL needed to get children interested & caption the interest of the women. For women, they introduced the Breast Cancer PINK branding, began hosting football 101 clinics for the women, etc. It's all about PR/Branding & boobs sell

I believe the same can be said about CFB

eta: LINK
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 9:40 am
Posted by disagreeber
Member since Oct 2014
319 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:46 am to
Youre right on your stats and I apoligize. I can admit when im wrong. 1-8 in women. 1-270 in males for both cancers.

look for Figure 3.

But in a male to female ratio the most common cancers are obviously,

Males- testicular
Women- Breast
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:10 am to
The thing about the whole breast cancer awareness drive is that it originated in a time where womens' health issues were given severely short shrift. They weren't being ignored as such, but most tests and studies involved mostly male participants with diseases that affected males more than females. So it's hard to begrudge breast cancer activists, especially since the topic was such a culturally sensitive one (it's hard for younger people to believe now, but there was a time when people just Did Not Discuss such topics, which meant women weren't getting screened or educated on it.) Obviously things have improved enormously since then, but what do you expect breast cancer awareness organizations to do? Pack it in and stop spreading the message because they've had success? And women are still dying from undetected breast cancer all the time.

As far as I'm concerned, kudos to them for learning savvy marketing. The relative lack of publicity about other cancers isn't their fault -- they had a purpose and didn't allow themselves to be diverted. Someone should ape their model and do the same with their own cause (like the testicular cancer you advocate for.) People have done it for AIDS, for heart disease, for various ailments related to smoking, etc. It's not a zero-sum game. If you're thinking that there's only so much money to be spread around, well, yeah. But none of this is really going to find a cure with donations. These causes are more about raising awareness and encouraging people to catch the problem early. No 5K race or pink ribbon is going to contribute to finding a cure, regardless of what well-intentioned participants think. The donations rarely find their way into the hands of the actual scientists working on the problem. Most of them are used to continue the program or funneled into prevention rather than the cure (and the whole bit about of prevention = pound of cure has lots of truth to it.) And that's not a zero sum game.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49204 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:16 am to
It's all about being PC and the Susan G Koman fund, they're corrupt as hell. And if they're so intent on talking about survivors why not show any men? Men can get breast cancer too. It's rare but does happen. It all goes back to how best does this serve our political agenda?

Oh and about prostate cancer, that's next month. Movember aka No Shave November
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 10:17 am
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:22 am to
quote:


It's all about being PC and the Susan G Koman fund, they're corrupt as hell.


I do so love it when people are dying and what other people are most concerned with is trying to shame them for being "PC" when they spread the word. It makes me feel properly ashamed that my last girlfriend died from breast cancer because she didn't get screened in time.

In other words, kindly go frick yourself.
Posted by disagreeber
Member since Oct 2014
319 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:23 am to
What an outstanding response. I thank you. I cannot find the link but, I've read somewhere that only 20% of donations to Susan G komen, actually to research. The CEO of the organization makes over $600,000 annually. I do believe in some organizations. I highly recommend the Wounded Warrior foundation. Im sure that the CEO of the organzation makes 6 figures as well but, I can honestly say, ive seen the good that the WW does. Be it, Houses built for disabled veterans, college programs, or family care plans for the wounded or deceased.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:29 am to
quote:

What an outstanding response. I thank you. I cannot find the link but, I've read somewhere that only 20% of donations to Susan G komen, actually to research. The CEO of the organization makes over $600,000 annually. I do believe in some organizations. I highly recommend the Wounded Warrior foundation. Im sure that the CEO of the organzation makes 6 figures as well but, I can honestly say, ive seen the good that the WW does. Be it, Houses built for disabled veterans, college programs, or family care plans for the wounded or deceased.


Marketing it as research money is a problem, and, yes, a little disingenuous. They're hitting the part that makes the best soundbite -- "Race for the Cure" sounds a lot more compelling than "Race for the Pamphlets and Marketing" -- but it's definitely a little misleading. But that's the case with pretty much every disease-related foundation. You don't see the American Heart Association curing heart disease, but you sure see a lot of commercials about it.

Wounded Warrior is, by all accounts I've heard, a good organization. The best way to check up on these things is Charity Navigator, which does the hard work of tracking down solid numbers for each charity.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:49 am to
quote:

But in a male to female ratio the most common cancers are obviously,

Males- testicular
Women- Breast
No, prostate cancer is by far the most common cancer in men. Testicular cancer is actually one of the less common cancers in men. Prostate, lung, colorectal, gastric, brain, skin, leukemia, and lymphoma are all more common than testicular cancer.

edit: and any kind of cancer awareness is good. It's not a contest, guys.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 10:51 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

The thing about the whole breast cancer awareness drive is that it originated in a time where womens' health issues were given severely short shrift. They weren't being ignored as such, but most tests and studies involved mostly male participants with diseases that affected males more than females. So it's hard to begrudge breast cancer activists, especially since the topic was such a culturally sensitive one (it's hard for younger people to believe now, but there was a time when people just Did Not Discuss such topics, which meant women weren't getting screened or educated on it.) Obviously things have improved enormously since then, but what do you expect breast cancer awareness organizations to do? Pack it in and stop spreading the message because they've had success? And women are still dying from undetected breast cancer all the time.

As far as I'm concerned, kudos to them for learning savvy marketing. The relative lack of publicity about other cancers isn't their fault -- they had a purpose and didn't allow themselves to be diverted. Someone should ape their model and do the same with their own cause (like the testicular cancer you advocate for.) People have done it for AIDS, for heart disease, for various ailments related to smoking, etc. It's not a zero-sum game. If you're thinking that there's only so much money to be spread around, well, yeah. But none of this is really going to find a cure with donations. These causes are more about raising awareness and encouraging people to catch the problem early. No 5K race or pink ribbon is going to contribute to finding a cure, regardless of what well-intentioned participants think. The donations rarely find their way into the hands of the actual scientists working on the problem. Most of them are used to continue the program or funneled into prevention rather than the cure (and the whole bit about of prevention = pound of cure has lots of truth to it.) And that's not a zero sum game.





I have nothing further to add. randomways knocked it out of the park.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69880 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

No, prostate cancer is by far the most common cancer in men



Yep, 1:5 men. How did I know that you'd focus on the a-hole?
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