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Benedict Arnold where would we rank him if not for the treason?

Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:19 pm
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139829 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:19 pm
Today is when he and his wife committed treason.

Until then he was considered a hero due to leading his men and staying to fight even though wounded.

Was he a profiteer? Most likely but was acquitted of the charges. He also was accused of using US supplies to further enhance his wealth.


I would have posted on Poli Board but it would have turned into Anti Haliburton, Bush, Obama, Clinton fight most likely.
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 2:20 pm
Posted by Stacked
Member since Apr 2012
5675 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:24 pm to
He would've made a hell of a politician today.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15710 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:13 pm to
If he hadn't committed treason, he'd have been one of our biggest revolutionary war heroes.

I still have a tad of sympathy for him. It isn't like he's the only middle aged man to lose it all because he couldn't resist the allure of a young female.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139829 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:15 pm to
His wife planned the whole thing. Her disrobing incident to allow him to get the hell out was a great move on her part.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139829 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:25 pm to
And today is when the British captured Baton Rouge I believe from the Spanish.
Posted by To the Dome
Member since Aug 2015
680 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:30 pm to
He went with the side he thought would win. He chose wrong. I don't rank him anywhere among anyone.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66952 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:38 pm to
If Benedict dies at Saratoga, he's a national hero. Westpoint wouldn't be Westpoint, it'd be Fort Arnold.

Just goes to show that you either die a hero or you live long enough to become the villain.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28728 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

Her disrobing incident to allow him to get the hell out was a great move on her part.


tell me more. wikipedia is failing me.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139829 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 4:27 pm to
When Washington came to arrest him she had a wardrobe malfunction and "became hysterical". It allowed him a few extra hours.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29176 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 4:29 pm to
Without Benedecit Arnold we might not have had a victory at the Battle of Saratoga. Without the Battle of Saratoga, the French might have never given us the assistance we needed to win the war. And Halliburton has two "l's".
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66952 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 4:41 pm to
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And today is when the British captured Baton Rouge I believe from the Spanish.


Other way around. Spanish Governor Galvez captured Baton Rouge from the British. After the French & Indian War, Spain was given control of the portions of the Louisiana territory west of the Mississippi River plus the Isle of Orleans (East of the Mississippi River, but South of Bayou Manchac, including modern Day New Orleans and the River Parishes). France had to give up the rest of her territories east of the Mississippi to the British (Quebec, New France, Acadia, ect). Spain, for their losing role, lost Florida (modern day Florida plus coastal Mississippi and Alabana and the Florida parishes).

During the Revolutionary War, after Spain sided with the Americans, Governor Galvez embarked on a highly successful campaign, defeating British garrisons in Baton Rouge, Mobile, and Pensacola, preventing the British from supplying their invasion of the colonies from the South (Cornwallis invaded at Charleston, SC and worked his way north, but had to be supplied from England).
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5882 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 5:50 pm to
I think his face would be on money.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 5:41 am to
Don't really see too big of a difference between Arnold and say Robert E Lee, if anything Arnold seems more sympathetic.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29633 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 10:15 am to
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Don't really see too big of a difference between Arnold and say Robert E Lee, if anything Arnold seems more sympathetic.


Really? That has to be one of the most ignorant things I have seen anyone post anywhere on any message board, and that is saying a lot...

Lee wanted very badly to stand with the Union; but when Virginia voted to secede, he made the patriotic decision to stand with his 'countrymen"

Back then, loyalty to one's home state was seen as being more important than to the country.

Lee made a choice to stand by his convictions and do what he believed to be right.

Arnold licked his finger and stuck it in the air to determine where his loyalties would lie.

One stood by his convictions, the other acted out of expediency.

You are basically calling Lee a traitor, nothing could be further from the truth. Lee was a great patriot that stood by his convictions and lived by a code of honor and integrity - a man we should all strive to be like
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5142 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

Don't really see too big of a difference between Arnold and say Robert E Lee, if anything Arnold seems more sympathetic.



You clearly know absolutely nothing about either person or history in general. Ignoramus.

As for your question, OP, most people would regard Arnold as an American hero. Countless things would be named after him. Historians would likely view him as a talented general with a colossal ego.

Honestly surprised the Left doesn't celebrate him already. He offered slaves freedom if they would fight for the British and freed some during his campaign in Virginia.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58075 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 9:52 pm to
Don't pay him any attention, he's an obvious liberal troll from the poliboard
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