Advice from the SECrOTB (new job)

Be patient and stay with your company if that is where you ultimately want to be in outside sales.

Leaving for another job thinking it will advance your career at your current company may not work out the way you think. I have done what you are considering a couple of times. It worked one time but not the other. I eventually got where I wanted to be, but had I stayed where I was originally I would have arrived a lot sooner.

Just kick arse in the current position and you will reach your goal. Good luck in whatever you decide to do.

2 years in the first job is a respectable tenure before leaving for more opportunity or income. its also a good way to build relationships without burning bridges.

I would agree with Diddy.

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Stay where you are, they have been good to you and you owe em a little

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All this. They gave you an opportunity and have invested in you. It sounds like you're in a good situation career wise. Leaving a job in less than two years will hurt you down the road.

I know it sucks in Oxford, but you will get out eventually.

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I told my boss

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huge no no, brah.

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Telling him about me being approached about another job? The company is a major supplier for us and the guy that is trying to hire me got permission to talk to me by my district manager.

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You're in the clear on that part.

Some good advice so far.

I think you would show your boss a lot of character by staying and showing loyalty.

I am sure the opportunity and money is tempting, but your boss seems a lot like a mentor. They are hard to come by. It also seems you are being groomed for better things with your current employer.

You will gain much more by staying in my opinion. I really like what aggie said. Your boss and company have been good to you. Pay it back and it looks as if you will come out ahead in the long run.

Let us know what you do.

I'll offer a more cynical reply than the rest.

Weigh it all out but ultimately put what is best for you first - above all else.

Having been in outside sales for near 20 years (frick I'm old) I can tell you that the sales force gets the shite end of the stick when things go sideways or gets rough.

I've been with huge pharma companies, med sized companies, even small regional medical equipment companies and whenever there is a merger, a sale of a division, a govt. regulation that changes the business model - sales people were the first to be cut.

It didn't matter how much your DM liked you, how hard you worked, how much loyalty YOU showed - if the numbers said combine these territories or cut X number of field sales people, you were SOL.

It took me one experience to know none of the people in upper management will take your loyalty and hard work into account if it means damaging the company's bottom line or damaging the share price.

I was with a company 8 years, survived one buyout and one merger, hung in when things weren't great for a while and then I got approached by a competitor for a new job. More money, better benefits, all that. I turned it down because the company and my DM had been so great through the birth of my two kids (I had two rough pregnancies) and I felt disloyal leaving them. Plus, they gave me my first job in the industry,

Cut to 11 months later and one of our drugs got an FDA warning and was pulled from our bags. They had to do a restructure to cut costs and appease stock holders.

Who got the "Thanks for your service but I'm sorry we have to let you go?" This gal who, because I had been there so long, was making a well above average salary than my counterparts.

They eventually refilled the territory 18 months later with a jackleg frat douche right out of college. They paid him half of what I made.

All that bitter ranting to say, loyalty is great but don't forget to be loyal to YOURSELF. Ultimately, no one else has you as their number one priority so make sure you do.

After taking some serious time to think it over its looking like taking the new job will be in the best interest of myself and moving my career forward. My boss has indirectly encouraged me to take this opportunity and he has assured me that he will not hold me back from bettering myself and that I would be leaving in a good way.

Thanks for all the advice everyone.

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My boss has indirectly encouraged me to take this opportunity and he has assured me that he will not hold me back from bettering myself and that I would be leaving in a good way.

Thanks for all the advice everyone.

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getting the go ahead from your current boss is always a good thing. unless he's a scheming douche, that's usually a good indication that he values you, but knows that you have more opportunity if you take another job. i was faced with a similar choice on careers 2 years ago (interestingly, started a thread on here about it) and the advice from here was appreciated, but getting his approval was key for me as i respected his opinion a lot.

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However, I have been approached by a major manufacturer and one of our top suppliers about a position and we've talked over the past month and they have made me an offer. It is a great opportunity and would give me great experience and could lead to a good job back with my company in a few years.

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Don't ever count on a company that just spent money training and moving you to a position to ever want you back if you just peace out for another position.

If you leave for this job, you better be ready for your current company to cut ties

ETA: Just saw your post about your boss saying it's fine, so disregard. You're in a good position then