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re: The next Missouri HC will be.

Posted on 11/22/15 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by mutigerz
Ballwin, MO
Member since Nov 2013
787 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 1:55 pm to
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I keep hearing Fedora, but I don't understand why he would want to leave UNC? He's got an easier path to winning in the ACC than he would at Mizzou and is closer to recruiting hotbeds. And other than this year, he hasn't exactly been tearing it up.



Missouri is a better job in the SEC. We are in great recruiting area because of SEC. Fedora had solid years at Southern Miss including finishing 12-2 and Top 20 his last season. Took over for UNC and has been competitive without much of a defense. He hired a DC this year and they have improved a ton and moved to 10-1.

Plus Mizzou can give him more money.
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:00 pm to
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He hired a DC this year and they have improved a ton and moved to 10-1.


And that DC is Gene Chizik who won the Natty at Aubbie. No, I do not advocate hiring Chizik. But there are worst candidates than him, IMHO.
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:02 pm to
Chizik is fine as a DC, not a HC. These guys are pretty common, Lane Kiffin is another example, great OC, terrible HC.
Posted by pauliebleaker
Chesterfield
Member since Jul 2014
1818 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:21 am to
Another couple of names floating around are Oklahoma offensive coordinator Lincoln Riley and Clemson defensive coordinator Brent Venables.

LINK

Lincoln Riley seems alot like Herman without the year at Houston. I don't know why you consider any DC to be HC unless its Odom.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5361 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:52 am to
why does everyone think if the hire is an experienced HC, we lose Odom. I haven't read about his name being considered for any HC jobs. Even when he came to Mizzou, there was an article that said he was a hot name, but there were no interviews or even a school to associate his name with.

If an AD was considering a DC for HC wouldn't Venables, Smart and Orgeron be well in front of Odom? I guess maybe he could return to Memphis because of his ties there, but where else would he go and be a HC?

I'm guessing any HC would love to keep the defensive staff intact based on their performance, and Odom may leave in 2-3 years for a bigger job. I think that we lose Kul this year even without Pinkel retiring. I think he gets a real power 5 DC offer, not like the co-coordinator job offered by the Illini coach who was on the hotseat.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:32 pm to
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why does everyone think if the hire is an experienced HC, we lose Odom. I haven't read about his name being considered for any HC jobs.


Because Fuente is leaving Memphis and Odom has already been approached about that job.

And if Fuente stays (he's not), Odom has two other SEC DC offers.
Posted by pauliebleaker
Chesterfield
Member since Jul 2014
1818 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:35 pm to
Odom doesnt have to interview yet. He will be a travelin' man on sunday.

He will be offered the memphis job and will accept if he's not HC here. He said he wants to be a head coach and Memphis has players he loves and he recruited. If not us, he for sure goes to Memphis.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:41 pm to
Once Fuente publicly accepts the VTech job, the rubber hits the road for Rhoades.
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:56 pm to
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Once Fuente publicly accepts the VTech job, the rubber hits the road for Rhoades.


Early bird gets the worm.

Rhoades better already be burning phone lines and making initial contacts/interviews. He should have started on 10/28/15 when Pinkel told him. He had somewhat a head start on the competition.

Full court press. It's "earn paycheck time" for our new AD.

This hire will make or break the program for a decade. Big...huge. Need a home run. I'm not getting any younger and want at least a SEC Champ in my lifetime. Natty too by golly.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 1:18 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:00 pm to
One thing to consider with Odom as well is that we could get him cheaper than other candidates and that leaves big money for an OC hire.

Lincoln Riley only makes 500k at OU. Maybe an extra 300k would entice a move.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:00 pm to
Prepare to be underwhelmed.

Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3474 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:02 pm to
My guess from another thread:

After watching coach hirings for 40 years, I'd be willing to bet (a little money, not the farm) that someone has already accepted the job with only the details to be hashed out.

Besides X's and O's, most coaches are highly skilled in keeping employment news to themselves
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:16 pm to
Has anyone mentioned Ed Orgeron? The kids at USC certainly wanted him to be their HC.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

Rhoades better already be burning phone lines and making initial contacts/interviews. He should have started on 10/28/15 when Pinkel told him. He had somewhat a head start on the competition.


I think they've already begun.
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:22 pm to
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Has anyone mentioned Ed Orgeron?


He has my interest. In another thread, they put him down for his record at Ole Piss. I think he brings a lot to the table and learned from his mistakes (ie. USCw players). He's 54 y/o which doesn't necessarily help. But the older I get, the better I like wisdom.

He should keep D-LineZou going with his background.

This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 1:28 pm
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5361 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:42 pm to
I mentioned Orgeron and was instantly shot down. I guess having the SEC's best recruiter as HC is not wanted. Not to mention, one hell of a DC mentor for Kul.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was at the top of the real list, not the media/fan list.
Posted by wstorie44
Farmington
Member since Dec 2012
3193 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:51 pm to
What was his record after he took over a SC? Personally think he would be a viable Candidate checks lots of stuff off
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5361 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 2:26 pm to
Because Mizzou has never had great recruiting, I think most people can't fathom year in, year out top 15 recruiting at Mizzou. If Odom bolts, the combination of Orgeron/Kul more than makes up for it. We need consistent OL recruiting, and where do you get a lot of those kids...the Southeast. We would still need an offensive overhaul, but whomever those new coaches were, they would benefit from better recruiting.
Posted by wstorie44
Farmington
Member since Dec 2012
3193 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:09 pm to
Totally agree think he would be a good hire n help recruiting greatly
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:13 pm to
Orgeron is a fine position coach. He was AWFUL in a 3 year stint as the Ole Miss head coach. His best season there he was 4-8.

Unless we are prepared to step up our bagman game big time then no one is recruiting consistent top 15 classes here.

He has a pretty well deserved reputation of being a dirty recruiter and lacking in any type of morality or character.

You guys are really asking for it with this guy.
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