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The Curious Case of Drew Lock
Posted on 8/27/15 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 8/27/15 at 7:03 pm
Another scrimmage and another team bra performance for the freshman:
I don't have PM, but according to killz they have reported they have heard he will not be red shirting this year. Which means he is at least the #2 QB right now and they plan on playing him.
This is a very slippery slope to tread here. I don't like this idea unless he is clearly the best QB and he is going to be starting. You burn a RS year for a few snaps a game when you really don't have to. You also run the (very high imo) risk of every QB on the roster transferring out after this year or possibly sooner.
IF they are truly going to do this I hope it isn't merely to play him in a backup role for a few snaps a day. The only way I would do it is if he is the starter, and I'd still be hesitant unless he is just head and shoulders above Mauk at this point. Dangerous game we are playing here.
I don't have PM, but according to killz they have reported they have heard he will not be red shirting this year. Which means he is at least the #2 QB right now and they plan on playing him.
This is a very slippery slope to tread here. I don't like this idea unless he is clearly the best QB and he is going to be starting. You burn a RS year for a few snaps a game when you really don't have to. You also run the (very high imo) risk of every QB on the roster transferring out after this year or possibly sooner.
IF they are truly going to do this I hope it isn't merely to play him in a backup role for a few snaps a day. The only way I would do it is if he is the starter, and I'd still be hesitant unless he is just head and shoulders above Mauk at this point. Dangerous game we are playing here.
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Posted on 8/27/15 at 7:10 pm to JesusQuintana
He is too good to be spending 5 years here, so it's not a terrible idea.
Also even if he doesn't play much, he will spend the year practicing with the back up offense as opposed to spending the year on the scout team.
Also even if he doesn't play much, he will spend the year practicing with the back up offense as opposed to spending the year on the scout team.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 11:15 pm to JesusQuintana
I haven't seen any of it obviously, but his numbers blow EVERYONE away, Mauk included. He is mature beyond his years and just based on what I read without the benefit of seeing it in person, I would feel more comfortable with him in the game than with the others.
I do hear what you're saying but I figured that would be a concern whether you play him this year or name him the #2 QB in the spring. Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if some guys leave if they want to play QB.
I do hear what you're saying but I figured that would be a concern whether you play him this year or name him the #2 QB in the spring. Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if some guys leave if they want to play QB.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 5:35 am to JesusQuintana
The kid isn't going to stick around for 5 years, so it really doesn't matter.
Really the only guy that needs to figure out what he is going to do is Zanders. He either needs to transfer or change positions, he won't see the field at Mizzou as a QB.
Really the only guy that needs to figure out what he is going to do is Zanders. He either needs to transfer or change positions, he won't see the field at Mizzou as a QB.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 7:19 am to reedus23
The only downside to this is that now Mizzou almost has to take a QB in this class, which I don't think the coaches were planning on doing.
Printz graduates in May, so he can transfer & play right away. Zanders also likely transfers after the season.
Printz graduates in May, so he can transfer & play right away. Zanders also likely transfers after the season.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 8:36 am to JesusQuintana
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Which means he is at least the #2 QB right now and they plan on playing him.
Doubt it. Would be surprised if he jumps even one spot to 3rd on the depth chart. People don't make huge jumps on depth charts.
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You burn a RS year for a few snaps a game when you really don't have to
Ding ding ding. This makes no sense. Remember everyone said the same thing about Mauk a few years ago? 2012 he didn't pull his redshirt. Had the numbers in practice too.
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The only way I would do it is if he is the starter, and I'd still be hesitant unless he is just head and shoulders above Mauk at this point.
He's not. This is message board and couch fans trying to take something and make it something it isn't. Drew Lock is the 4th string qb until the depth chart says otherwise.
Scrimmages are to keep starters fresh, while letting backups get "game time".
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Also even if he doesn't play much, he will spend the year practicing with the back up offense as opposed to spending the year on the scout team.
Redshirts practice with backups all the time.
Drew Lock is 4th String until further notice. 4th String.
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 9:11 am
Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:03 am to 5thTiger
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Drew Lock is 4th String until further notice. 4th String.
Lock is NOT playing this year and it is highly doubtful he plays next year so long as Mauk is breathing. Pinkel has never moved an underclassman QB over a returning starter QB.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:08 am to JesusQuintana
You gotta think the coaching staff see's this roster within the next 2 years as the best chance to win the SEC, and they know we'll need more than just Mauk to do so.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:18 am to 50CalMG
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You gotta think the coaching staff see's this roster within the next 2 years as the best chance to win the SEC, and they know we'll need more than just Mauk to do so
I think this is the year. Especially with the offensive line. Next year will replace at minimum 4 starters.
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highly doubtful he plays next year so long as Mauk is breathing
I think it becomes the 3/1 show like all the other QB's next year. Mauk gets most series, with Lock getting one or two per half...the same way mauk did with franklin, and franklin did with gabbert.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:27 am to 5thTiger
This sounds dumb to say I know, but the 2007 offense plus this years secondary/LB's wins a NC.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:49 am to 50CalMG
PM said again this morning that they are hearing Lock will play some game 1. He's not red shirting barring an injury.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:07 am to mosoblkcougar
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PM said again this morning that they are hearing Lock will play some game 1
If he goes from 4th to 2nd string in one week....yeah, I'll believe it. Until then...bunch of stat lookers trying to make this something.
I'd be willing to put money down that Marvin Zanders is closer to stepping on the field against SEMO than Drew Lock.
Drew didn't come onto campus until this summer. I'm all aboard his train...but y'all are jumping the gun. Through 2 scrimmages, he was still 4th string. I would be surprised to see him move past Zanders for 3rd. I would probably have a heart attack if he jumped to #2.
Also. Not exactly sure who is correct, but Morrison's stats say lock didn't have any first team reps, Mauk and Printz did. 3rd Scrimmage stats
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 11:16 am
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:13 am to mosoblkcougar
GP has no reason to wait around. If Lock is the best some have ever seen at Mizzou (the scribes writing about scrimmages, etc) then GP knows it is time to act. He doesn't have a whole lot of years left unless he wants to go out like Bill Snyder.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:14 am to 5thTiger
IDK, there is starting to be too much smoke on this one to not believe there is a fire. I agree it is a total departure from what Pinkel has previously done, but it looks like Lock is just too damn good to sit.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:15 am to 50CalMG
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it is highly doubtful he plays next year so long as Mauk is breathing.
It's amazing that some of you are capable of feeding and clothing yourselves.
Lock will be the starter next year, 100% certainty. Zero chance it doesn't happen.
It may happen at some point this year. In fact I'd bet on it at this point.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:22 am to JesusQuintana
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IDK, there is starting to be too much smoke on this one to not believe there is a fire. I agree it is a total departure from what Pinkel has previously done, but it looks like Lock is just too damn good to sit
That's been one of GP's recent strengths: The willingness to do things somewhat differently than in the past.
If he's proven anything it's that he's earned our trust to make the right decisions for his football team.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:26 am to JesusQuintana
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there is starting to be too much smoke on this one to not believe there is a fire.
Smoke from who? Beat writers? Bloggers?
Stats with 2nd, 3rd, and 4th team? With no contact?
I've never seen beat writers get so excited over a QB who is 4th on the depth chart. But the point is....he is 4th on the depth chart.
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 11:30 am
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:35 am to 5thTiger
Yes, and PM didn't infer he would be playing from the stats he put up. They said they heard from a source he would play in week 1.
I doubt he's 4th string come Monday, but we shall see.
I doubt he's 4th string come Monday, but we shall see.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:40 am to 5thTiger
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Stats with 2nd, 3rd, and 4th team? With no contact?
Stats vs 1st team. Don't play in the sandbox if you haven't done your homework on building sand things.
As well as, and this might be way over your head, likely is, probably, actually undoubtably over your head, most certainly -- some people can do really special things with their eyes and mind when they watch an athlete preform -- you see, they have intuitive powers that you simply don't have. When these guys are watching Drew Lock's composed nature zing perfect throws around the field, commanding and leading drives, it resonates within them, a message is sent to their brains that says -- this guy's got it, he's special, he's better than all the rest.
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 11:41 am
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:45 am to Sleeping Tiger
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Stats with the 2nd team vs 1st team
Passing yes. Impressive. Taking 3 sacks on the drive, not impressive. INT vs the 1st team on a terrible ball, not impressive. He was 3-5 vs the 1st team defense...while taking 3 sacks (2 back to back) ....and throwing an INT.
I know Drew Lock is going to be special, but there are very few true freshman who make the jump strait into actual competition. Certainly not those who don't enroll early.
Coaches have updated the depth chart after each scrimmage. After 2 scrimmages, he has not moved. Why such a large change now? That isn't how GP has worked.
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 11:47 am
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