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re: Odom has alluded to a lack of talent several times
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:36 am to JesusQuintana
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:36 am to JesusQuintana
Since your perspective isn't going to make one iota of change for the FB program, it doesn't matter, does it?
The why always matters. Don't be disingenuous.
The why always matters. Don't be disingenuous.
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Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:44 am to JAGsports
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Love how after the LSU game it was consenses on this board that Mizzou is lacking in talent but now that the coach said it, all of a sudden Mizzou is loaded with talent.
Lacking the talent to compete for a Natty. NOT lacking the talent to beat fricking MTSU. Huge difference.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:44 am to navynuke
Of course it doesn't matter. Neither does yours.
The why only matters to the responsible party and only when the why can be correctly identified and corrected in the proper way.
If Odom wants to play the "I don't have the players" card, then go get better ones. It's that simple. If he wants to sink or swim with "his way" that's fine, but you better win your way.
I've seen a lot of "this is what we have to do based on personnel", "we don't have any margin for error". Haven't seen any of maybe we shouldn't have changed what was working. Again, that's fine. If he's truly convinced he's right, then go make it work. I just fear he doesn't have a real good grip on any of it.
The why only matters to the responsible party and only when the why can be correctly identified and corrected in the proper way.
If Odom wants to play the "I don't have the players" card, then go get better ones. It's that simple. If he wants to sink or swim with "his way" that's fine, but you better win your way.
I've seen a lot of "this is what we have to do based on personnel", "we don't have any margin for error". Haven't seen any of maybe we shouldn't have changed what was working. Again, that's fine. If he's truly convinced he's right, then go make it work. I just fear he doesn't have a real good grip on any of it.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:51 am to JesusQuintana
I will speculate, bitch and whine all day too about the causes, but at the end of the day, for me as a fan, I don't much care about the why either. I just want to watch winning, enjoyable football. Whoever is getting paid the big bucks can figure out the real reason why and fix it or get the hell out.
Until then, I'll go watch me some Blues and wait for maybe wrestling season to start. It is unbearable watching how this defense has imploded.
Until then, I'll go watch me some Blues and wait for maybe wrestling season to start. It is unbearable watching how this defense has imploded.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 11:03 am to reedus23
I thought BOs strength was using different defenses to match his talent level. He never had a set scheme at Memphis. It doesn't matter, BO was never supposed to be the Mizzou coach, but Rhodes had no choice. In 3 years there will be a new facility and a new coach.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 11:33 am to surgicalvenom
If u think he is gone in 3 years then fire him now.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 11:54 am to JAGsports
No new coach comes in if a coach is fired after 1 year. Plus too much money is owed him and staff. Unless his recruiting gets drastically better, there is no basis to predict a turnaround so 3 years is about right.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 12:19 pm to surgicalvenom
It's one thing to point to talent after LSU, but we are more talented than MTS almost everywhere.
He seems to have lost control of the team. j'mon and others blow assignments and keep playing. Nobody seems to be trying. Constant penalties and turnovers. They look demoralized. It gets worse each week.
The D looks completely disorganized. Arm tackles, no effort. The scheme may be part of the problem or a symptom.
That's all on the coaches. If he is going to blame the players and lack of talent we have a major problem.
He seems to have lost control of the team. j'mon and others blow assignments and keep playing. Nobody seems to be trying. Constant penalties and turnovers. They look demoralized. It gets worse each week.
The D looks completely disorganized. Arm tackles, no effort. The scheme may be part of the problem or a symptom.
That's all on the coaches. If he is going to blame the players and lack of talent we have a major problem.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 12:41 pm to navynuke
You're making a semantic argument. The why can be 100 different things. In the end,Odom will fix enough of those things that we don't suck anymore or he won't. And we'll be looking for a new coach. He can't say "The players haven't bought in" and then Sterk says, "Well, okey dokey."
Posted on 10/23/16 at 12:54 pm to the808bass
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The why can be 100 different things
So there are a 100 reasons why the LBs aren't making their fits when the opposing offense motions to the field side in a one back set?
You have no clue what you are watching, do you?
Posted on 10/23/16 at 12:58 pm to navynuke
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So there are a 100 reasons why the LBs aren't making their fits when the opposing offense motions to the field side in a one back set? You have no clue what you are watching, do you?
Why are you wanting to be a bitch in this thread?
Posted on 10/23/16 at 1:02 pm to the808bass
It's a yes or no question. Don't be a pussy.
That is just one example of what the players are responsible for in this system that they weren't when they based out of a Cover 2. You have to invest during the week or it doesn't work on Saturday.
That is just one example of what the players are responsible for in this system that they weren't when they based out of a Cover 2. You have to invest during the week or it doesn't work on Saturday.
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Posted on 10/23/16 at 1:05 pm to navynuke
If you think Sterk is going to ask Odom at the end of the year "Why aren't the LBs making their fits when the opposing offense motions to the field side in a one back set?" then you're a stupid arse.
You know football a lot better than I do. And I won't even pretend otherwise. You may not have a clue beyond that.
You know football a lot better than I do. And I won't even pretend otherwise. You may not have a clue beyond that.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 1:10 pm to the808bass
He is going to have to defend what he is doing and make Sterk believe that it will work. If you don't think that discussion is going to happen, you are a stupid arse as well as being schematically clueless.
Carry on.
Carry on.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 1:13 pm to navynuke
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If you don't think that discussion is going to happen, you are a stupid arse as well as being schematically clueless.
If you're pissed about the game yesterday, we all are. Being an arse and demonstrating your ignorance is my role on this board and I'd appreciate if you'd stop trying to take it over.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 1:41 pm to navynuke
No, I don't believe Sterk is going to have a discussion about run fits, blocking schemes or route concepts.
Frankly, I doubt he gives a shite. He gives a shite why we didn't win and what Odom is going to do to win. Beyond that, it's all noise. If he goes in blaming his players, then there is a very simple answer to that.
Frankly, I doubt he gives a shite. He gives a shite why we didn't win and what Odom is going to do to win. Beyond that, it's all noise. If he goes in blaming his players, then there is a very simple answer to that.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 3:37 pm to navynuke
Well I appreciate your analysis. It's better than mine, and it's better than bitching and calling people ignorant
Posted on 10/23/16 at 6:07 pm to JesusQuintana
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No, I don't believe Sterk is going to have a discussion about run fits, blocking schemes or route concepts.
Frankly, I doubt he gives a shite.
Sterk most definitely gives a shite. That is the flagship program in his department and his largest selling point to boosters. Odom's appraisal of his staff and how he plans to implement his changes moving forward will either satisfy Sterk or catalyze the beginnings of a coaching search.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 6:12 pm to navynuke
No, his results in the coming years will.
The how or why is not going to matter. The W and L will.
The how or why is not going to matter. The W and L will.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 6:29 pm to navynuke
Administrators, unless they coached (Barry Alvarez) do not dig into X & O's. Sure they may ask about your scheme or your plans but they are not going into how you read a play or fit on stopping the run.
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