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Name Being Thrown Around For New Baseball HC.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 3/24/15 at 4:23 pm
Tony Vitello.
Got it from a thread on PM that he got from an article off rockmnation.
Anyone else hearing anything? This is the first I've heard. Other than TJ's contract may not get renewed.
Got it from a thread on PM that he got from an article off rockmnation.
Anyone else hearing anything? This is the first I've heard. Other than TJ's contract may not get renewed.
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 4:26 pm to jafo
I haven't seen or heard anything. Mainly because I am way out of the loop besides reading PM.
Vitello has always been the #1 name on my list.
Vitello has always been the #1 name on my list.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 4:44 pm to ZouKeeper314
Think he was an assistant here a few years back when baseball was good. B
Also sounds like Loftin is going to have the new AD address the scholarship issue that has been hurting Mizzous diamond sports.
Also sounds like Loftin is going to have the new AD address the scholarship issue that has been hurting Mizzous diamond sports.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 4:50 pm to jafo
I've been beating his drum for quite some time. He's a solid recruiter. We're already strong recruiting STL but he'd solidify it. His dad coached for like 4 decades at DeSmet.
He played for Mizzou. He coached for Mizzou for 8 years. He was an assistant coach and recruiting coordinator in Texas at TCU for 3 years. Now he's coached and served as recruiting coordinator in the SEC for his 2nd year at Arkansas. That's 13 years of coaching experience at a pretty high level. He's ready.
Not that he was solely responsible, but it follows him where he goes:
3 of his last 4 years at Mizzou, the recruiting classes were in the top 25.
Had a top 10 class at TCU, who, by the way, is a consensus top 5 team this year (#1 by some), playing with the guys Vitello would have recruited.
Had the #1 ranked recruiting class at Arkansas.
He seems like too obvious of a choice and almost to perfect with the timing. Does the team's success this year get TJ an extension though? Hard to fire the guy at this point I would imagine. But YES I would love to get Vitello.
He played for Mizzou. He coached for Mizzou for 8 years. He was an assistant coach and recruiting coordinator in Texas at TCU for 3 years. Now he's coached and served as recruiting coordinator in the SEC for his 2nd year at Arkansas. That's 13 years of coaching experience at a pretty high level. He's ready.
Not that he was solely responsible, but it follows him where he goes:
3 of his last 4 years at Mizzou, the recruiting classes were in the top 25.
Had a top 10 class at TCU, who, by the way, is a consensus top 5 team this year (#1 by some), playing with the guys Vitello would have recruited.
Had the #1 ranked recruiting class at Arkansas.
He seems like too obvious of a choice and almost to perfect with the timing. Does the team's success this year get TJ an extension though? Hard to fire the guy at this point I would imagine. But YES I would love to get Vitello.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 6:53 pm to reedus23
It may be closer than you think if TJ keeps dropping games like they did today. Pinebluff beat us 8 to 3. Just can't lose games like that.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:00 pm to jafo
Ouch. Didn't get a chance to follow. That sucks.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:08 pm to reedus23
Well, if he does get fired, it's his own doing as far as I'm concerned. Starting a senior in mid-week games makes no sense. Use those games to get innings for guys to prepare them for the future. There is no future for a senior.
Alec Rash is a former 2nd round draft pick. Unheard of for such a kid to choose college over the slot money of pro ball in the 2nd round. Has hardly gotten off the bench in his time here.
Bryce Montes De Oca is a flame thrower who was picked just outside of the top 10 rounds despite coming off of surgery. Had he not had that, he was projected by some to go as high as the 2nd round as well.
And yet neither get a chance to start. I get that TJ hates pitchers with control issues and both have a bit of that, but they're not gonna conquer those problems without getting on the bump in game situations. Besides, they usually pitch out of their trouble. And, against inferior opponents in mid-week games, you can afford to groom them for the future.
Oh, and:
Rash: 2.03 ERA with opponents hitting .200
De Oca: 0.00 ERA with opponents hitting .000. Yes, those are all zeros across the board. But instead of grooming the youth to be weekend starters in future years, we throw a senior. Oh, and Tribby coming out of the bullpen is even worse.
Alec Rash is a former 2nd round draft pick. Unheard of for such a kid to choose college over the slot money of pro ball in the 2nd round. Has hardly gotten off the bench in his time here.
Bryce Montes De Oca is a flame thrower who was picked just outside of the top 10 rounds despite coming off of surgery. Had he not had that, he was projected by some to go as high as the 2nd round as well.
And yet neither get a chance to start. I get that TJ hates pitchers with control issues and both have a bit of that, but they're not gonna conquer those problems without getting on the bump in game situations. Besides, they usually pitch out of their trouble. And, against inferior opponents in mid-week games, you can afford to groom them for the future.
Oh, and:
Rash: 2.03 ERA with opponents hitting .200
De Oca: 0.00 ERA with opponents hitting .000. Yes, those are all zeros across the board. But instead of grooming the youth to be weekend starters in future years, we throw a senior. Oh, and Tribby coming out of the bullpen is even worse.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:11 pm to reedus23
If it were me, I'd pull the trigger regardless. The timing is too perfect for Vitello and someone else is gonna snatch him up if not us.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:29 pm to reedus23
HERE WE GOOO!!!! TIME FORE KIMMIE I JUST SLEEP IN THE GYM, I NEVER USE IT TO PRACTICE SHOOTING BASKETBALLS ENGLISH!!!!
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:34 pm to mizslu314
What are you talking about?
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:35 pm to reedus23
Kimmie English brooo
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:39 pm to reedus23
I think that some of the problem with TJ is he wants to play both roles as HC and pitching coach. I think they need a full time dedicated pitching coach. Pitchers are not going to work out of control issues without proper guidance. Just won't happen.
Not saying he can't do it. But the time that he can dedicate to pitchers may be limited due to head coaching responsibilities. There is a reason teams have pitching coach positions.
All these pitchers need time on the mound. You get rusty no matter how much you throw on practice days. Nothing takes the place of game situations and being able to adjust to different umpires strike zones.
Not saying he can't do it. But the time that he can dedicate to pitchers may be limited due to head coaching responsibilities. There is a reason teams have pitching coach positions.
All these pitchers need time on the mound. You get rusty no matter how much you throw on practice days. Nothing takes the place of game situations and being able to adjust to different umpires strike zones.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:43 pm to mizslu314
Whoever it is, he'd better be gluten free. Don't need no damn excuses like, "I have IBS" affecting in game decisions and such.
You can't call a squeeze on the shitter. Well, you can, but it won't result in any runs. Well, that's not true either, especially if you're not gluten free.
That's why this shite is of utmost import.
Literally.
You can't call a squeeze on the shitter. Well, you can, but it won't result in any runs. Well, that's not true either, especially if you're not gluten free.
That's why this shite is of utmost import.
Literally.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:56 pm to mizslu314
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Kimmie English brooo
For baseball???
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:56 am to reedus23
Coach's Mizzou bio fawns over him: "... Jamieson is the perfect coach to lead Mizzou into its third year in the Southeastern Conference. His body of work speaks for itself..."
Bio goes on to talk only in the past tense after noting, "Despite a slight set-back while transitioning to the SEC over the last two seasons..."
But, if my figures are right, the last 2 years have been 38-65 overall, and 16-44 in the SEC.
The new powers may not pay much attention to his Mizzou roots and history. They care about competing in the SEC.
I think He'd better be a big time conference winner this year. 3 years of hind-tit in the SEC will be his doom.
Bio goes on to talk only in the past tense after noting, "Despite a slight set-back while transitioning to the SEC over the last two seasons..."
But, if my figures are right, the last 2 years have been 38-65 overall, and 16-44 in the SEC.
The new powers may not pay much attention to his Mizzou roots and history. They care about competing in the SEC.
I think He'd better be a big time conference winner this year. 3 years of hind-tit in the SEC will be his doom.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:09 am to Literalist
Baseball has been down since 2010. Not just since joining the SEC. We only made post season once since then, and that was because very mediocre team surprisingly won the Big 12 tournament. Being down became magnified by joining the SEC because of the competition level.
But to his credit, they're playing well this year. Can you fire a coach after a season of improvement? Tough call.
Mizzou has had 3 baseball coaches in 77 years. That has to make it one of the most stable programs in the country. Simmons for just over 35 years. McArtor for 20 years. TJ for 20 years now. They have the opportunity, with Vitello, to hire the coach that could be here for the next 20 years.
But to his credit, they're playing well this year. Can you fire a coach after a season of improvement? Tough call.
Mizzou has had 3 baseball coaches in 77 years. That has to make it one of the most stable programs in the country. Simmons for just over 35 years. McArtor for 20 years. TJ for 20 years now. They have the opportunity, with Vitello, to hire the coach that could be here for the next 20 years.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:21 am to reedus23
Went back to take a look at TJ's records over the years. Really, he rode the Scherzer/Crowe years back to back in the mid 2000's. Made the NCAA's all 7 years from 2003 to 2009. Out of the other 13 years, he's only made the NCAA's twice. Once in his 2nd year, arguably with McArtor's players still, and the second time when they surprised everyone winning the Big 12 tournament in our last year there.
He gets credit for bringing in Scherzer and Crowe and company, but outside of that 7 year stretch, he is barely a .500 coach (377-345/.522) and in conference is pretty lousy(154-229/.402).
But he is 5-1 in conference this year.
He gets credit for bringing in Scherzer and Crowe and company, but outside of that 7 year stretch, he is barely a .500 coach (377-345/.522) and in conference is pretty lousy(154-229/.402).
But he is 5-1 in conference this year.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:03 am to reedus23
AWESOME! I got approved for this board.
TJ has been too good for the program for too long to just be shoved out. But if they can play it as a ride off into the sunset and bring in his "hand picked successor" and former pupil Vitello, that's the move.
Vitello is a rising star and one of the best recruiters in the country.
I am a little biased as my cousin is friends with him and I've followed his career because of that.
TJ has been too good for the program for too long to just be shoved out. But if they can play it as a ride off into the sunset and bring in his "hand picked successor" and former pupil Vitello, that's the move.
Vitello is a rising star and one of the best recruiters in the country.
I am a little biased as my cousin is friends with him and I've followed his career because of that.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:15 am to ProjectP2294
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AWESOME! I got approved for this board.
Welcome Project!!!
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TJ has been too good for the program for too long to just be shoved out. But if they can play it as a ride off into the sunset and bring in his "hand picked successor" and former pupil Vitello, that's the move.
Agree and disagree. If the season continues as is, I agree, it's a mess and I don't think you can just shove him out. If the season reverts to the past 5 seasons, then I'm not so sure.
I have a good friend dating back to grade school on his staff, so I would have loved to have seen them succeed and actually see him replace TJ in another 10 years.
TJ has certainly done good, and like I said, he gets credit for the Scherzer/Crowe era, but beyond that, he's been respectable but not outstanding. The last 5 years have been ugly, this year excluded.
I appreciate what he's done and the stablility that he's brought to the program, but like I said, everything seems just too perfect with Vitello.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:16 am to ProjectP2294
How old is TJ? Mid 50's? I think he's too young to be playing the "I've decided to retire" card.
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