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re: Mack Rhoades on several topics

Posted on 4/28/16 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25156 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 2:46 pm to
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Actually donations to the university as a whole are up when compared to this time last year. Now I'm not sure how the donations from the last fiscal year compare to prior years.


And there is a ton of money coming your way from the SEC contract. Start upgrading right now. Get it all out of the way. Yes, the protest thing stung the university, but your sports programs (despite bad years in football and MBB) is a healthy as can be.

We all know you will be back sooner or later, probably sooner, in football. There is too much talent in MO in basketball to stay down. Spend the money now so that when the good years come you are ready to turn them into the good decades.

With the right leadership, the right investments in infrastructure, I think Missouri is poised to be a real power house in sports. You have the demographics on your side.
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3071 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

With the right leadership, the right investments in infrastructure, I think Missouri is poised to be a real power house in sports. You have the demographics on your side.


I hear ya Arksulli. Thanks for the confidence.

There is a mind-set of being "tight with the coins" at ol' Mizzou. The state is run the same way. We have AAA bond rating. These things take time...

Poor leadership was the root cause of the protest/boycott. We still need to hire a permanent Pres and Chancellor. These things take time...
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25156 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 3:09 pm to
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There is a mind-set of being "tight with the coins" at ol' Mizzou. The state is run the same way. We have AAA bond rating. These things take time...


We are the same way here at Arkansas. Right now... you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a millionaire in NWA. But we are used to being the people scrapping together spare change.

Missouri has the money. They have a conference that, despite what the trolls say, thinks y'all shite gold bricks. Because, TV money wise, you do. Right now is the time to spend the money to lure the athletes to Missouri.

The time to be bold and put your thang down is today for Missouri. Yes, you had poor leadership during the protest. Well that happens. You still have one of the great public universities in America.

Posted by ZackAttackTiger
Kansas City
Member since Dec 2014
381 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 6:39 pm to
You aren't real familiar with our university are you Arksulli. There is always good bb recruits in Missouri. They just never go to school here.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19229 posts
Posted on 4/30/16 at 9:49 pm to
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Mizzou doesn't have the small to midrange donors to go bigger.
Mizzou has close to the same number of big donors as most SEC schools. Just don't have the people that give between 100 and 5000 a year


Well, there's never been a better opportunity to recruit potential new donors than the 50,000-plus St. Louisans Stan Kroenke and the NFL told to get fricked.
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
15510 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 12:00 am to
That's complete bullshite about not renovating the south end zone. Our stadium still looks bush league as hell despite the current renovations, and the south end zone renovation is the quickest way to fix that.

It is completely unacceptable to not build up the south end zone.

Plus MR keeps hanging on to Kim Anderson and gave dumbass Tim Jameison a raise last year, both of which are panning out to be terrible decisions.

I hated Alden, but holy crap I'd almost take him back right now...Mack is a major disappointment.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19229 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 2:28 pm to

I heard Dave Matter on 920 AM this morning and the interviewer asked him about the South End Zone project and he said not only is it dead, the new football digs will be a shared facility. Primarily for football, but shared.

Maybe Mizzou would have been better off in the Mountain West than the SEC with this kind of facilities vision.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 5:20 pm to
Just a truly God awful plan and a waste of funds which seemingly are limited. It's such a terrible idea all things considered I almost can't believe it's true.

I was giving MR the benefit of the doubt considering he stepped into a pretty bad situation, but I'm starting to really dislike him.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 5:53 pm to
Do we even know what the plans look like? Seems way too early to make that call. I think next month they are revealing what the upgrades will look like and feature. I will wait until I have real information before judging this move.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 5:53 pm to
Saw this on TB

rhoadesma@missouri.edu

Shoot him a quick email. Voice your concerns. Can't hurt.

Already sent one.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19229 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 4:56 am to
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Do we even know what the plans look like? Seems way too early to make that call. I think next month they are revealing what the upgrades will look like and feature. I will wait until I have real information before judging this move.


You're right about our preemptive killing of a plan that has yet to be released, but when you see the finished facilities their up against you wonder where the "wow" factor will come from.

The South End Zone project seemed to have the signature potential to change the perception of the stadium and turn heads with recruits in one project.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:54 am to
It really doesn't matter what the finished plans look like.

We know they have scrapped a desperately needed project to replace two facilities that don't really need to be replaced. The only problem with the MATC or DP is the football team has to share them. This doesn't even solve that. We also know it's a decision driven by money, and putting on the appearance of doing "something"

Even if these two facilities are the Taj Mahal, it's still a completely foolish expenditure of apparently limited funds that only sets us back further in regards to the things that actually need to be addressed.
Posted by SemperFi
St Louis
Member since Nov 2015
1508 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:04 pm to
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Even if these two facilities are the Taj Mahal, it's still a completely foolish expenditure of apparently limited funds that only sets us back further in regards to the things that actually need to be addressed



Couldn't agree more. IMO the should just sit on things until the funds become available to do all the work that needs to be done,

Posted by SemperFi
St Louis
Member since Nov 2015
1508 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

Even if these two facilities are the Taj Mahal, it's still a completely foolish expenditure of apparently limited funds that only sets us back further in regards to the things that actually need to be addressed



Couldn't agree more. IMO the should just sit on things until the funds become available to do all the work that needs to be done,

Posted by TigerTalker16
Columbia,MO
Member since Apr 2015
11533 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 7:44 am to
I find myself becoming more and more disappointed with Mack Rhoades.
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
2760 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:57 pm to
I have always believed you buy nice or you buy twice. However, if they have assessed that we may not have funds to build the South end zone for 5 more years, then it may make sense to build this other project now to get positive attention to the program at a desperate time. It may push the South end zone back a decade but it may be a necessary step for us to reach a decade from now.
This post was edited on 5/5/16 at 6:59 pm
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25156 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 2:50 pm to
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I find myself becoming more and more disappointed with Mack Rhoades.




I know what you mean, Jeff Long is lauded as a god among ADs... but we are mediocre at best across the board in sports.

It is not that you have to be able to raise funds as an AD, though that is great, it is that you have to hire and develop the right coaching talent to turn all that money into tangible results.

Mizzou, and Arkansas for that matter, are sitting on a ton of money that should be turned into a sports juggernaut. The money is there, the footprint is there, the results should be there as well.
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
2760 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 3:24 pm to
I don't believe Arky or Mizzou will ever become juggernauts in football. There are too many good to great programs to jump over. I think to be a juggernaut you are talking about a 5+ year run of dominance. Objectively that means we'd have to jump 4 great teams: Bama, Florida, LSU & Ga. Then 4 teams with deep pockets or dirty fingers: Tenn, A&M, Auburn, & Ole Miss. To pull it off for 1 year is possible, but to pass and then stay on top of those 8 programs is nearly impossible...unless you want to pull an Ole Miss and potentially sell your soul for 5 star kids and risk huge sanctions.

For example look at Oregon they have won 4 out of 7 Pac championships! And they are still usually thought of after USC, UCLA, & Stanford.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25156 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:00 pm to
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I don't believe Arky or Mizzou will ever become juggernauts in football. There are too many good to great programs to jump over. I think to be a juggernaut you are talking about a 5+ year run of dominance. Objectively that means we'd have to jump 4 great teams: Bama, Florida, LSU & Ga. Then 4 teams with deep pockets or dirty fingers: Tenn, A&M, Auburn, & Ole Miss. To pull it off for 1 year is possible, but to pass and then stay on top of those 8 programs is nearly impossible...unless you want to pull an Ole Miss and potentially sell your soul for 5 star kids and risk huge sanctions.

For example look at Oregon they have won 4 out of 7 Pac championships! And they are still usually thought of after USC, UCLA, & Stanford.


You are right, I don't think either of our two schools will become a super power in football barring a dramatic change. But we both should be incredibly solid across the board in all sports.

I do think, however, when it comes to football, we can establish ourselves in that second tier. We don't have the sheer mass of talent that the top schools do but with some hard work I think both Mizzou and Arkansas can produce teams that have a shot at beating them.

And in other sports such as basketball, we should be kicking hell out of most of our cohorts in the SEC.
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